Finish Lines & Milestones: Episode 130: Chase Adams - From Work Release to the Boston Marathon

Finish Lines & Milestones: Episode 130: Chase Adams - From Work Release to the Boston Marathon

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Guest: Chase Adams @chasernopacer

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Okay. Now for a quick story before I get into this week's episode. So my dad and I are. Running the Marine Corps marathon, which is on October 26th in Washington dc And I'm reaching out to him 'cause I'm like, Hey, you gotta find a specific time to get your bib. So I'm telling him like what email he needs to find the time that I'd [00:02:00] picked, whatever.

So this is when he realizes that he accidentally registered for the virtual edition, not the in person edition. So he had not received these emails and. We go into a full blown panic mode because the race is sold out. The date to transfer bibs has passed. I reached out to the charity Ainsley's Angels that I'm running with to see if they had any extra bibs, but same thing, the date to transfer has passed.

We're outta luck. Uh, I emailed the race director and then I posted on Instagram and so many people shared and were so kind with their comments and good vibes Amanda Nichols special shout out. Reach out to the team to be like, Hey, here's my bib. Like he can have it. His name is Mark Hill from Carmel.

And so thank you Amanda. And then you know my friend Eileen Poor, she reached out to the race director as well. I mean, there's just so many people. So thank you, thank you, thank you. The Marine Corps team got back to, my dad actually called him. And helped him get switched over. I even got a nice note from the race director as [00:03:00] well.

So for anybody who's giving the team crap for not being communicative, , which I see a lot in the Facebook group, sadly, this team is exceptional. They're working their butts off to have this 50th anniversary. Marathon happened, hopefully. you know, fun fact, the last time that my dad and I did Marine Corps was 12 years ago and there was also a government shutdown at that time.

Thankfully, it was resolved before the race. This time it's not looking great. So hard to know where that. Puts us, but you know, that's out of our hands and I know that the MCM team is working so hard to make it happen. So anyway, great news. I'm so happy that was resolved. Now I can focus on kicking whatever cold I have, and tomorrow it'll be the 10 day weather forecast and I can start obsessing about the weather.

If you know, you know, and I know you all know, I know I'm in good company there. So this week's guest, I am proud to introduce Chase Adams. Chase and I like many of my guests, we met first on the internet and then I had a chance to meet him in person. chase is from Southern Indiana and Vince sends [00:04:00] and.

As I record, this is on his way home from Greece where him and his wife celebrated their honeymoon belated because they got married in 2020, so this was their five year wedding anniversary. So I hope that they had a wonderful trip. Very jealous of that. I've never been to Greece. but Chase and I recently got to see each other at the Indy half as well at Fort Ben, which we talk about during this episode.

And then his next race is the Indy Monumental, which is on, November 8th, which gives me a chance to plug the live podcast event that Lindsay Hein and I are hosting. So if you are gonna be at Indie Monumental, make sure you check out the link in the show notes or on my Instagram to get tickets. We have Emily Feld as our guest of honor, for a live event at the Bottleworks Hotel.

It's gonna be amazing. So make sure you come. So Chase and I also just talk about How he got into running. he actually made it to state in the 800 at one point and what I found was nuts is Chase actually signed up for his first marathon while he was on work release from jail.

Not something I saw coming. And [00:05:00] he is also now the co-host of a podcast. It is called Run Talk Live and he met his two co-hosts on the internet as well. So I just love that story. We talk all about Boston, Carmel, Chicago, Berlin, Mesa Flying Pig, uh, a lot of the races that he's done and Chase is one of those people who's actually won a race. So an everyday runner who has actually won a race in his hometown at the Vincennes half marathon and he crossed the finish line holding his dog Oliver, which I love so much. So I hope you enjoy this conversation with my friend Chase Adams.

Well, hi Chase.

Chase Adams: Hey. Hi. Thanks for driving

Ally Brettnacher: up to Carmel.

Chase Adams: Hey, no problem. I come up here quite a bit, so. Good.

Ally Brettnacher: your sister and mm-hmm. One of your best friends up here?

Chase Adams: Yeah. Yeah. Pretty much my best running buddy, who we've been running together since we were kids.

Ally Brettnacher: Really? Yeah. That's fun.

Chase Adams: He's over in Lawrence, so.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay. That's not too far.

Chase Adams: Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: Are you gonna run the Indy half this year? Does he run it?

Chase Adams: Um, he doesn't, well, he, uh, he probably will actually. That's kind of [00:06:00] one of the perennial ones that we do. Okay. every year. And that's, I love that race. So the Fort Bend race is probably my favorite.

It, it's probably my favorite races period. Like I just love it.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. It's so pretty. It

Chase Adams: is. The course is just gorgeous. It's a little hilly, so like, it's challenging. Mm-hmm. That's why people kind of stay away from it, but it's beautiful just being able to run through the park and everything.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. It is. I.

Didn't run it until I joined the board for monumental.

Chase Adams: Oh really?

Ally Brettnacher: And I was like, well, I should probably see what that race is about. Mm-hmm. I had always stayed away. 'cause I thought it was hilly and it's not that bad.

Chase Adams: No, it's really not. Like there's

Ally Brettnacher: definitely one big hill, but now we put a timing mat at the bottom of the top.

Right.

Chase Adams: So yeah. They try to,

Ally Brettnacher: you try to kill the hill. Yeah. Which I have mixed feelings about, depending on how my race is going.

Chase Adams: Uhhuh? Yep. I'm the same way. I think I, think there's been a few times where I like just went out there and did it for fun and I was like, and then I'm just gonna kill that hill whenever.

Yeah. See how fast I can go. And then I get there and I'm just like, nah, nevermind.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. What is it? Mile 11 or something like that. Yeah. Sounds like that.

Chase Adams: It's pretty far really

Ally Brettnacher: mean location. Really? Yeah. 'cause it's like towards the end. But have you ever done the Geist [00:07:00] half marathon?

Chase Adams: Mm-hmm.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay. So it's another local one in Fishers around the Geist Reservoir.

Okay. And it's that one. I've done a bunch and it's really hilly compared to Fort Ben.

Chase Adams: Really?

Ally Brettnacher: So then I was like, well, why did I ignore Fort Ben this whole time? Because it's beautiful and I mean, I like guys too, but it's Fort Ben now has a special place in my heart, and it's the 30th year this year.

Chase Adams: Yeah, I know.

And I, I didn't, I actually didn't know that I wasn't going to do it this year. because like, I'm, I'm actually an hour north of Evansville,

Ally Brettnacher: okay? Mm-hmm.

Chase Adams: Um, but I've never done the Evansville half, so that's a pretty flat fast one. so I was gonna do that this year, but then I, I was actually, I think it was your podcast.

I was listening to it and I was, oh, it's the 30th year this year. Well then I gotta do Fort Bend. So Yeah,

Ally Brettnacher: you do.

Chase Adams: So yeah, and

Ally Brettnacher: they just revealed the metal and it spins and it's so pretty. Oh, nice. It's

Chase Adams: just,

Ally Brettnacher: I'm not really a metal person necessarily, but. I like it. I

Chase Adams: mean, if you put the work into it, like I, I, I really enjoy my, well, I like a medal, don't get me wrong.

Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: But I don't sign up for a race because of what the medal looks like. I should clarify. I'm very much a metal

Chase Adams: person.

Ally Brettnacher: I keep all mine.

Chase Adams: Sure.

Ally Brettnacher: [00:08:00] Yeah. Do you have, do you keep all your medals on display at home?

Chase Adams: Uh, mostly, yeah. I got a couple different racks, but, and then my, my majors, I have their own separate things, so yeah.

I've actually, actually, I've got one for, all of my indie hon medals. Oh, that's cool. Fort Ben and all of my monumental medals. Yeah. Because like one year I got one of the scarf or something for doing the whole mm-hmm. The whole series. Mm-hmm. So it's just hanging up above that and that's where I put all those every year.

Ally Brettnacher: Perfect. Yeah. Yeah. I do that for, I have my indie mini medals all on one rack because my husband does that too sometimes, so that we have so many. Mm-hmm. And then, yeah, I need to redo my whole display, which I'm excited about.

Chase Adams: I do too. So I'm not excited about it. But

Ally Brettnacher: yeah,

Chase Adams: it's a lot of hanging and a lot of, lot of.

Moving things around the wall, but Right,

Ally Brettnacher: that's true. Yeah. But that's why I've been kind of putting it off. I'm like, oh, I know I have a vision of what I wanna do. Exactly what, yeah, exactly. Oh man. So you also host a podcast? I do, yeah. A running podcast co-host. So tell people about that.

Chase Adams: Well, so it's [00:09:00] called Run Talk Live.

Um, me and two other people, Jake and Carolyn, and it all kind of started a few years ago. Around the pandemic time. You know, that's kind of what got me into like doing social media just like a lot of other people. Right, right. Like a bunch of people got into it around that. A bunch of people also got into running around them too, so.

Yeah, very true. You know, I was looking at YouTube videos, I was doing some stuff like that, and then I discovered TikTok. And when I discovered that short form content, I was like, oh, this is a lot easier, less time consuming. Like I, I was addicted right away, just like a lot of people are with TikTok.

Mm-hmm. But, uh, but I found the running community in TikTok Run Talk. Mm-hmm. Or so it's called. And uh, that was just a lot of fun. I found people that I, you know, I, my wife's not really into running. I don't have a lot of people that work with me that are into running so. It was cool to have that community to mm-hmm.

To just talk to about

Ally Brettnacher: it. Yeah. That outlet, you're like, I gotta get this out somehow.

Chase Adams: Right? Yeah. So it was, it was awesome to just have that community and find that. And, not too long after I joined, uh, this one guy named the cultural [00:10:00] runner.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay.

Chase Adams: Um, he tagged me in a video and was like, Hey, you should check this guy out.

and that ended up being Jacob Irwin, my, my coach. Oh, that's, that was, that's Jake.

Ally Brettnacher: And so that's how you kind of met, met him. That's how I met Jake. So, yeah. And that's cool. So

Chase Adams: I just shot him a message. I was like, Hey, thanks for tagging me in that. I appreciate it. And you know, we started talking, found out that we're both like super nerds.

He's a big Spiderman guy. I'm a big Superman guy.

Ally Brettnacher: is there any rivalry. In that case, I don't know anything.

Chase Adams: No, no, not really. Okay. So you're allowed to build We're D ones? Yeah, we we're fine. Okay. He's, he's kind of a Marvel guy. I am kind of a DC guy. Okay. And okay.

Ally Brettnacher: That, yeah, that's kind of what I was getting at.

I guess. I don't know enough about that, but

Chase Adams: at the end of the day we just like, we like comics. I was actually down visiting him last month and we went, went to go see the new Superman movie together, so I was kind of cool.

Ally Brettnacher: Oh, that's adorable. Mm-hmm. And he's in Florida? Yes, he is. Okay. What part of Florida is he in?

Chase Adams: Uh, Jacksonville area. Okay. Yeah. All right. Which actually has. Hmm.

Ally Brettnacher: Is that inland or is it on the coast? No, it's right on the coast. Okay, beautiful.

Chase Adams: Um, so it's North Atlantic side. Okay, nice. That's, yeah, and they got a really great running community down there, like a really [00:11:00] awesome and like competitive running.

It's a big reason why he moved there, but, um,

Ally Brettnacher: interesting. Yeah.

Chase Adams: That's cool. But, so anyway, yeah, I met him and we started talking and then eventually he was like, Hey, I wanna do this live event. Yeah. And you know, I was thinking of doing this every week and I was like, Hey, that sounds fun. I'd count me in.

He's like, this other person I've been talking to, Carolyn, she's wanting to do it too. And I was like, all right, cool. So, uh, it started out as just us getting together every week and doing TikTok live and taking questions and talking and, and that sort of thing. Oh my gosh. What

Ally Brettnacher: is it like doing the live, the live scares me.

Chase Adams: It was interesting. I mean, um, that was like kind of our first little, uh, you know, attempt at. Doing a show together and then kind of talking together. So, it, it allowed engagement from other people though. Mm-hmm. So that was kind of nice. That cool you to like have the, the content was coming from the questions that were being asked.

Yeah. So that's good in that, in that aspect, you kind of get, you get that load kind of lifted off your shoulders of having something to talk about or needing something to talk

Ally Brettnacher: about. Yeah. Right, right. Yeah.

Chase Adams: So, [00:12:00] so that was kind of neat. But then over time, You know, we were busy people, we all, we've all got jobs and families and things like that.

So eventually we were like, we can't get together every week and do this. Mm. That's a lot. Um, so we just talked. We were like, why don't we just do a podcast and then we can record whenever we want. Yeah. So that's kind of how it started.

Ally Brettnacher: That's cool. And how long has it been now? A couple years.

Chase Adams: A couple years.

We've done 57 episodes, I think. That's great. Yeah. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. I mean, it's so much fun. It really is. Like, again, just having somebody to talk to about running on a, on a regular basis. Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. I couldn't agree more because. Yeah, my husband's like, is Kelly right? Your wife? Yes, Kelly. My husband's like Kelly.

He's like, I don't really, like, I support your running, but I don't really need to hear about how your run was today. I don't, you know, like support you, but like good for you. Mm-hmm. So it's nice to have the outlet, especially with social media, which I think you've talked about how it has, it's like, it's like good and bad.

Oh yeah. But mostly good. I would say at least for the inspiration, motivation, community that you can [00:13:00] get there. I'm not very good at TikTok. I'm trying to become better. Where I just like post, I know you're not really supposed to just post what you post on Instagram Right. On TikTok. Like they're completely different platforms, but it gets overwhelming.

Mm-hmm. So, yeah, trying, I mean, there's

Chase Adams: so much going on and I think that, you know, I tried doing all of it there for a while and I just had to take a step back 'cause Yeah. It's, it's a lot. So, yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: Well, and you have a normal job, like a full-time job. Yeah. What do you do for your day job?

Chase Adams: Uh, I'm act, I work in automotive manufacturing.

Okay. For a tier one Toyota supplier. So I'm actually. In the Toyota umbrella.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay. Yeah. That tracks for Southern Indiana, I suppose. Mm-hmm. Yep. Probably a lot of that down there.

Chase Adams: Yep. We supplied directly to the Princeton plant down there, so.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay, cool. And so we talked, we didn't talk about where specifically you were from when we first started.

I, yeah. We talked about how you drove up here. Mm-hmm. But tell people about where you're from and what that area of the state and the country's like.

Chase Adams: Yeah, sure. Vinsons, Indiana. so pronunciation there and a lot of people say like, Vincent, 'cause it's spel funny.

Ally Brettnacher: Oh, that is [00:14:00] funny. I guess I just know because I'm from Indiana.

Mm-hmm. And I've heard it so many times.

Chase Adams: Yeah. So Vincents is a, it's actually got a really rich history. First capital of Indiana, the first city of Indiana. Yeah. First college in Indiana, so,

Ally Brettnacher: wow. I had no idea. Is it, what's the college down there?

Chase Adams: Vincents University. Okay. Yeah. Got

Ally Brettnacher: it.

Chase Adams: It's a junior college now.

But yeah, I mean, it was. You kinda learn all that, obviously living in the town. Right. But, we have a national monument too. Not a lot of people know that. The George Rogers, Clark Memorial. So who is

Ally Brettnacher: George Rogers? Do you know? He

Chase Adams: was like a, he was like a colonial, um,

Ally Brettnacher: guy. Yeah.

Chase Adams: French and Indian War. I, I, I.

There's forts. I run through his forts all the time, so, okay. That's, yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: That's funny. You're like, so it's there and it's national, so Yeah, it's cool. That's cool. Right? Yeah. That's about the extent I know about our, I mean, you talk about monumental all the, I mean, I don't really know. I probably should know more frankly, but I don't.

okay. And so were you born there?

Chase Adams: No, I wasn't. I was actually born in Florida, Orlando.

Ally Brettnacher: Oh, okay.

Chase Adams: Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: And so do you still have family down there?

Chase Adams: Oh yeah. A [00:15:00] lot of, a lot of family. That's kind of where I was down there. I wasn't really visiting, just solely visiting Jake. I was down there visiting my grandparents, so,

Ally Brettnacher: oh, that's nice too.

And then you go and you run Disney down there. Mm-hmm. So that's, yeah, I do that on excuse to visit.

Chase Adams: Mm-hmm.

Ally Brettnacher: Family too.

Chase Adams: Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay. Interesting. And what, how'd you end up in Indiana?

Chase Adams: Uh, just when I was young, I think my, my grandparents moved up here, business venture, and my mom followed them.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay. At the

Chase Adams: time, single mom and, uh.

Eventually met my stepdad and we stayed, so,

Ally Brettnacher: wow. And you have siblings?

Chase Adams: Mm-hmm.

Ally Brettnacher: How many?

Chase Adams: Three. One sister? Two brothers.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay. Younger or older?

Chase Adams: All younger,

Ally Brettnacher: yeah. Oh, you're the oldest child? Am I the oldest

Chase Adams: child? Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: Oldest children unite.

Chase Adams: Yeah. You gotta go through all that and you gotta watch all the. All the stuff that you did, I know that they don't get in trouble for that thing.

Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: It's, it's like, you know, people are, oh, yes. You're like the role model. I was like, well, Kai, in some ways, but I was also very much the model of what not to do for my sisters. [00:16:00]

Chase Adams: I, I always say that I just wore my parents down, so Yeah. I'm. I'm the one that broke 'em down for, for the others to get, to have a little bit more fun.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. That's great. Yeah. Somebody has to do it

Chase Adams: right.

Ally Brettnacher: I always talk to my oldest daughter about that. I'm like, it's hard to be the oldest, but it's just, you know, there's not much you can do out. You're the oldest, you've gotta

Chase Adams: mm-hmm.

Ally Brettnacher: Pave the way. Yep. I know how you feel, so. Okay, so oldest of four kids. So, was your mom always a single mom growing up?

Chase Adams: No, um, no, not always. Um, my stepdad kind of came into the picture not too long. I was probably nine, I think, when they got married.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay.

Chase Adams: Okay. So, and then my brothers came along and, I mean, it didn't, from my perspective, it really doesn't seem like she was. Doing that for very long. Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: Although, gosh, yeah. I can't imagine with, yeah.

Oh yeah. Anyway, we could go down a whole rabbit hole, IM sure. Oh, sure,

Chase Adams: sure. Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: so when you were younger, did you play a lot of sports growing up?

Chase Adams: I did. but cross country and track were always kind of the big ones for me. Okay. Just [00:17:00] 'cause, just as a lifelong runner, you know, I think my, I always joke around that my parents just threw me out there because that would wear me down.

Uhhuh just run in circles and whatnot, but. Um, there was just always something about it that it, it helped that I was a little bit good at it, right? Mm-hmm. Like I had some natural talent. so it felt good being like the fastest kid on the playground and all that. But, but over the years, like that's just always been what it holds me.

Together is just running, so. Mm-hmm. So, yeah, even as a kid, just track and cross country, like helped me kind of get through school. Like it was kind of my motivation a long time to, to get the grades that I needed just to be eligible for track. Mm. And then my parents had high expectations too, so I had to do even better than just what the minimum expectation was.

Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. So what events did you run?

Chase Adams: Mostly distance. I, I dabbled into mid distance is kind of my, uh, what ended up kind of being my forte later on. as far as like the 800 is what I went to state in, went to

Ally Brettnacher: state in the 800. Mm-hmm. That's pretty cool.

Chase Adams: It was, that [00:18:00] was a, a fun experience. I would've liked to do it a couple more times, but Sure.

Like, you know, things happen. But yeah, it was awesome. Like I, I was psyched to be there. I think I got like. Second or third to last when I was there. But that was fine. Whatever. I was just happy to be there. Yeah. I knew I wasn't gonna win, so. Yeah. Right. Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: It's like people that make it qualify for the Olympic trials, right?

Mm-hmm. It's like you're That is the finish line. Yeah. That is, that's it. Is making it there. You don't expect to then, yeah. Win there. That's really cool.

Chase Adams: Mm-hmm.

Ally Brettnacher: And then for cross country, how is cross country compared to track for you?

Chase Adams: Um, I enjoyed cross country a lot. Probably more than track maybe, but um, I never made it to state.

I always kind of fizzled out. Later on in the year. I think that was just a, you know, everybody's, everybody gets coached in different ways and it was, it wasn't until like my college years that I started to kind of realize some of my tendencies and what worked for me versus what didn't. And, but yeah, I loved cross country in high school.

Like it was probably my favorite.

Ally Brettnacher: I'm always jealous of people that did cross country growing up. 'cause I had never tried it. Yeah. I was a [00:19:00] soccer player. I did tennis, I did track for one year. I did basketball once. That was not good. but I always wonder what could have been, you know, it's like now I feel like I could have had, you know, a run at being good at that sport, but woulda, coulda, shoulda have.

Now I'm just chasing my best as a, as an adult.

Chase Adams: I'm sure a lot of people are feeling that way with the way that so many people have gotten into running. Right. Yeah. A lot of people are probably looking at that. Yeah. I think probably more kids are gonna end up getting into cross country because of that.

Ally Brettnacher: Uh, yeah. Right. And that's one of the things you just hope, I just don't want to burn out or like burn my kids out. Mm-hmm. I should say. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Chase Adams: But

Ally Brettnacher: obviously you never burned out. Did you have times in your life where you did not run or you always

Chase Adams: Yeah, definitely. I mean, there's times when life things happen and the motivation's not there.

but at the end of the day, like I said, that's, it always kind of brings me back to center and it keeps me sane and it just kind of helps me clear my head. I mean, that's mm-hmm. All the reasons that I tell people that I run, so, yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Did [00:20:00] you, okay, so you mentioned college years. So you went to college, did you, but you didn't finish college?

Did I read that somewhere or hear that somewhere? Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah. No, I went

Chase Adams: to, I went to Bens University, so like my local college. Um, junior college, but still a great like, experience. We still, what does

Ally Brettnacher: junior college mean? I don't know what that means. Um, it's

Chase Adams: like the, the two year colleges basically.

Got it. Um, I, I Is

Ally Brettnacher: it similar to a community college then? Yes. So it is a community college. It's, it's

Chase Adams: just labeled a university, I think, just because it's always been a university. Yeah. Okay. They do offer four year programs, but, No.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Okay. That's something else.

Chase Adams: But yeah, I went there and, uh, I ran cross country there for track and cross country.

Oh, wow. Two years there. but again, even in college, that was the only reason that I was there. So like my, my grades were bare minimum. Mm-hmm. I didn't walk away from there with any kind of degree to show for it. Yeah. So when it was all said and done, I was just like, I don't know what to do now.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Yeah. You're like, okay, great. Now what do I do with my life?

Chase Adams: Right.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. I felt kind of [00:21:00] similar anyway, even though going to like a traditional college, but I was not a collegiate athlete. I just partied and kept my grades at a bare minimum. So that was my athletics, I guess you could say. Which I, looking back, you're like, wow, I just have so much respect for student athletes that are able to manage both those things, even if it's at a bare minimum.

I mean, that's incredible.

Chase Adams: Yeah. I mean it was, uh, even for community college, we still had. You know, classes that we had to go to, but we, and we had parties too that we did, but yeah, but we got to travel and see things too. Like our, our junior college nationals were in El Paso, Texas. Okay, that's cool. So that was really cool.

And we got to travel. We were up in Michigan a lot. So, I got to travel around and do some pretty cool stuff as a part of that. That's even just, just being a, even just being in a community college and, and I know that like college sports is kind of like iffy right now with the, the landscape of everything, but I would not trade that time for anything.

Yeah. So if anybody gets the opportunity to, to do college sports, I would definitely do it. Whether you're walking on or whatever.

Ally Brettnacher: [00:22:00] Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I'm sure you just learn. So much. It was like I had a, through that

Chase Adams: experience, I had a, and it's nothing against my high school coach, like he's one of the, I, I look up to him more than almost anybody on this planet, but I think that, you know, he didn't have the full knowledge to be able to coach.

Me effectively, or maybe coach effectively. He just, you know, he did good enough for high school. Yeah. Track and cross country. But when I got to college and, and my coach had a really good knowledge and experience, he, he was able to just kind of unlock something in me that. you know, led me to having some of my best times.

Yeah. Look back on, wonder where that speed went.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Well, you know, time well get older,

Chase Adams: right?

Ally Brettnacher: Uh, how old are you?

Chase Adams: 40.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay. That's, I thought I'm 39, so I'm like knocking on the door. Next July I turned 40, so I'm right there with you.

Chase Adams: Yep,

Ally Brettnacher: yep. But I think the. Fastest times in certain things, right? Mm-hmm. Like certain distances are, are ahead of me at least.

I hope so. So actually I wanna talk [00:23:00] about how you figured out what to do after college. 'cause you're like, what do I do now? How did you figure out where to go from there?

Chase Adams: That took a long time and a lot of, a lot of hard life lessons really. cause I, you know, tried my hand at a few different things.

First thing I tried was the military. That was, um, oh, okay. Yeah. That was. Kind of something that I sat down with my dad and was, I didn't know what to do. And, you know, we decided on that and then we decided on the Air Force Okay. 'cause of, opportunities that came of it. And, um, that was all well and good.

So I, I did, I went to basic training and went to the Air Force. I was in school for air traffic control. Um, oh, that's fascinating. Yeah. Yeah, it was. And, and it was, uh. I, I have no negativity towards being in the military, but it didn't last very long for me and it was all a timing issue. I went in right as I was turning 21.

So, you know, made some bad decisions, did some things, and got made an example of is what it is, right? But, that's why I don't have anything against them. I made the mistakes. But [00:24:00] then I came home and, you know, still trying to figure out what I wanted to do with life. Tried to go back to school that didn't really work out again.

ultimately got into some trouble and ended up spending a stint in jail. I was drinking and driving. but I remember when I went in, when I went in there, I knew at that point that it was time to, to find a direction in life. It was time to do something. Yeah. Like I, I, I just had to. Find something and just stick to it.

so after I got outta, I got moved from jail into like a work release program.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay.

Chase Adams: And I started working at the place that I am now.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay.

Chase Adams: Um, so it was to, it was at the time it was a TS, now we're called Toyota Boku. But, As soon as I started working there and saw the opportunities that came from just that industry mm-hmm.

I saw an opportunity to, have a career.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Chase Adams: Um, so as soon as that set in, then I, I knew what I wanted to go do. I knew what kind of direction I wanted to take in life. And then the next thing was kind of finding my running journey again.

Ally Brettnacher: Mm-hmm.

Chase Adams: So I, I [00:25:00] signed up for my first marathon before I had even gotten out of the work release program.

Ally Brettnacher: Really?

Chase Adams: Yeah. So

Ally Brettnacher: that's, so didn't even interesting. Didn't even, like, I

Chase Adams: wasn't even supposed to be released yet by the time the marathon was coming up. Um, but I knew I wanted to do it and I, I. Was getting out. I could get like day passes and things to, yeah, to do things. Anyway, I was spending that time running.

I would go to my parents' house and run. so I knew I wanted to train for a marathon. I knew I wanted to run for a marathon, and then I called up a lawyer and uh, he was able to get me out early. So I really only had about eight weeks to train for that first marathon after all that was said and done.

But.

Ally Brettnacher: that's nuts.

Chase Adams: But yeah, that's kind of how I came around to running. Again, that's the cliff notes version of, of how I figured out what direction I wanted to take in life.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. So, okay, so work release.

Chase Adams: Mm-hmm.

Ally Brettnacher: Does that mean you're still. In jail most of the time. And then you're released to be able to like work throughout the day.

Mm-hmm. And then you go back, is that how that works?

Chase Adams: Pretty much, yeah. They let you out to go to work and then you come back to sleep and [00:26:00] eat and all that stuff?

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Okay. And so how long were you on the work release part of it?

Chase Adams: About nine months, I'd say. Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: Geez. Oh my gosh. And you're like, well just sign up for a marathon.

How do you even sign up for a marathon? Like on work release? Do you have access? Uh,

Chase Adams: well, like I said, I get those day passes, so like I would, I would go home and, That was when, you know, me and my dad would have a lot of serious conversations on those days. Yeah. and yeah, I was just told him I was, we, things were looking really good at work.

Yeah. So I was like, Hey, uh, I'm running, I wanna run a marathon. And he was like, okay, well how are we gonna do that? Mm-hmm.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Like, what, how, and then so which marathon did you sign up for as the first one?

Chase Adams: Fort Ben.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay. Back when it was a marathon, back when we

Chase Adams: did a full marathon. Yep. That was my very first marathon.

Wow. Another reason why I love that race. It's special. Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: Fort Bend. Okay. And what year would that have been?

Chase Adams: 13,

Ally Brettnacher: I think. 13. So 13 or 14. Okay, so that's. Yeah. Over a decade ago. Mm-hmm. And so you would've been around 30 years old then at that [00:27:00] time? Yeah. Yep. And at what point in your life did you meet Kelly, your wife?

Chase Adams: That was around that time.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay. How did you meet?

Chase Adams: Work.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay.

Chase Adams: Yep. We met at work.

Ally Brettnacher: Look at all that coming together.

Mm-hmm. Uhhuh. So, okay. So you met through work. And you're training for this marathon. What did she did? Did you meet her?

Chase Adams: Uh, I did both. After

Ally Brettnacher: you were already done the marathon or be while you were training or,

Chase Adams: uh, met while we were training. Didn't actually start dating until afterwards. Okay. 'cause yeah, I mean, I was kind of, she, she knew where I was.

Yeah. So like, so you like And I had to kind of get out. Yeah. So that was. that was a whole thing, but yeah. But yeah, it was after I'd done that marathon.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Well, clearly she could see in you that you were, I mean, yeah, you're signing up for a marathon, putting in the work, you know? Mm-hmm. So that's cool.

So, okay. And then you signed up for the marathon, you're training for the marathon. How did you know how to train for the marathon? Like what did you, do you even remember how you did that?

Chase Adams: I have no clue. I think maybe. I looked up like a Hal Higdon [00:28:00] plan, or that's something Yeah, that's what I first started.

Um, I was coming off of like, I was running like five miles on the days that I could. Mm-hmm. Um, whenever I was at my parents' house. So then whenever I got out, I had to spend, you know, I had like eight weeks to try and figure that out and I really just kind of ran miles, I'll never forget that. Uh, I, I had no idea how to train like that, that race, I was probably the fastest 15 miles I've ever ran in my life.

Like I was, I was on a, I was definitely a 15 mile PR at that point. Yeah. And then the rest of the race was,

Ally Brettnacher: that's amazing. Miserable. Yeah. Yeah.

Chase Adams: So it's a lot, like, a lot of stories with, with their first marathon. But yeah. Don't

Ally Brettnacher: go out too fast. You, but yeah. I had

Chase Adams: absolutely no idea how to train for a marathon, right?

Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: Or what you're doing. So down where you're from in the Vincent's area, where would you run? Like I picture country roads? Mm-hmm. Like where you would run? Is that fair?

Chase Adams: Yeah, that's pretty fair. Um, especially like when you really, you know, when you try to get do those longer runs. Mm-hmm. me, I like, especially in the summertime, I like to do [00:29:00] loops around town, so it keeps it local and you don't get into the, the corn fields and whatnot.

Right. Yeah. Plus it's dark, so I like the lights and the sidewalks and all that.

Ally Brettnacher: Right. Yeah. Because we talked about you're a morning runner. Mm-hmm. And so have you always been a morning runner since you've done distance stuff?

Chase Adams: More or less? Yeah. At least since, at least as an adult, like even I was on night shift for a long time, and even then I had to run before work, so I always, no.

I told people for a long time when I went to the day shift schedule. I actually had got more sunlight when I was on nights 'cause I'd wake up at like three o'clock in the afternoon and go run before I had to go to work all night. So now I get up at three o'clock in the morning before I have to go to work all day.

Ally Brettnacher: That is wild to think about night shift. I don't know many people who've worked night shift jobs.

Chase Adams: It's, it takes a certain breed, so,

Ally Brettnacher: well, especially when you are, you know, have a wife. Mm-hmm. Does she work night shifts too though? Yeah.

Chase Adams: Yeah. We were both on, on nights together for, well, that helps then obviously.

Ally Brettnacher: 'cause if you're off Yeah. [00:30:00] Then you just like never see each other probably in that case.

Chase Adams: Yeah. We were actually like, I went to days a couple, like about a year before she did and Oh yeah. That's hard. That was rough. Yeah,

Ally Brettnacher: that would be rough. Yeah. You talk about like ships in a night, you're like, have fun at work.

Pretty much. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So now you're both on days. Mm-hmm. That's nice.

Chase Adams: And I don't have to take excessive PTO for a Saturday race anymore. 'cause that's the problem with being on nights is like, I work Friday night, but if I wanna run a race on Saturday morning, I'd have to take PTO for Friday night.

Right. I didn't even think about that, that vacation day.

Ally Brettnacher: And then it would probably be so hard. I mean, I talk about how it's hard to sleep the night before a race, but in that case mm-hmm. You're used to being awake all night.

Chase Adams: Yeah. You gotta flip your schedule real quick,

Ally Brettnacher: just like out of nowhere. That's crazy.

Yeah. And take more time off.

Chase Adams: Mm-hmm.

Ally Brettnacher: Weird. That's so interesting. Okay. And then did you have like a GPS watch at this point too? Because I'm trying to picture out how you would even map out your mileage, know how far you were going. I

Chase Adams: can't remember. I know like my parents, we've lived in the [00:31:00] same, my parents have lived in the same house since I was in like fifth grade, I think.

Okay. So, uh, you know, I've kind of, I got my routes around home since. So you knew Yeah. The dawn of time. Uh, yeah, but I think I got my first GPS watch. It was a Timex Iron Man GPS watch. Not too long after that. It might've been before the marathon. Yeah. But nah,

Ally Brettnacher: it'd be a good excuse to get one if you're training for a marathon, but also, yeah, I

Chase Adams: remember how big I was trying to

Ally Brettnacher: remember when they came out.

I don't know. I remember how

Chase Adams: big that thing was. It was, it made my garment look itty bitty.

Ally Brettnacher: Really? It was like a calculator on your wrist. That's so funny. It was huge to think about. Okay, so then you run your first marathon at Fort Bend. Mm-hmm. Which used to have a, a full marathon. And so at that point, like talk about, the race sounded pretty brutal based on what you just said, about 15 miles really fast, and then not, but do you remember how it felt to finish and like, were you like, sign me up for the next one right away?

Chase Adams: I think I felt fairly positive coming away from that one. Like, I, I, I kind of. Laughed it off. Like I [00:32:00] was like, okay, that was dumb. Well, I learned that lesson the hard

Ally Brettnacher: way. Yeah.

Chase Adams: But, um, but the kind, the goal was always to qualify for Boston. talking about my high school coach again.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay.

Chase Adams: he ran Boston whenever I was in high school, whenever he was coaching.

Yeah. I was

Ally Brettnacher: gonna ask you, how'd you even know that that was a thing? So,

Chase Adams: yeah. Yeah. So that was always kind of why I wanted to run Boston. I saw him do it and, and that was, that kind of became a lifelong goal for me. At that point. So even though one was down, I knew that I just had to get back up and find the next one.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Okay. So what was the next one?

Chase Adams: I don't remember. I.

Don't remember actually, that was, probably monumental or I might not have done another like, big race until the many the next year.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay.

Chase Adams: But I can't remember exactly.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. It's hard to keep up. Mm-hmm. Do you, how do you know how many races you've done? I have no

Chase Adams: idea. Like, I know I'm probably, I don't think I'm to 15 full marathons yet.

Half marathons. I'm probably. Uh, twenties, thirties. I don't even, sure. Yeah. Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: [00:33:00] That's great. I, well, I have to know, I don't, I can't remember when I made my spreadsheet, but it took some time 'cause I had to go back and like look at each race to figure out which years I ran and, but, okay. So probably monumental maybe.

What are the other, did you qualify at Monumental the second marathon?

Chase Adams: No, it was actually quite a long time before I qualified. Right. I really, it, it took some, some. Some work, I guess. Yeah. And some, some beat downs really, before I finally qualified for Boston. But, but I did, so that was good. But that monumental a few times really.

you know, I, I would go into it feeling pretty good and again, still don't really have a clue how to train for a marathon. And I haven't really, like, I think maybe I bought some training plans online or something, but it was like I never got a coach. Yeah. So, you know, I was doing all these races and I was constantly being let down.

I didn't, I wasn't running the times that I thought I could run. And then what was even worse, and I, I talked about my, my best friend as a kid. [00:34:00] Mm-hmm. you know, he, he kinda had the same goal. He wanted to qualify for Boston. He keep kept running too, but even though we were, we're really good friends, it's always been a frenemy type situation.

So I'm very, we, I'm very competitive. Yeah. And, and he, he started running a lot faster than me. It, uh, it really, it really bugged me.

Ally Brettnacher: that's so hard, isn't it? It is, yeah. I've had the same situation with one of my friends, Ashley, and she still hasn't qualified for Boston, but she was pretty damn close, and I remember being just so jealous.

I'm like, okay, I gotta get out. I gotta figure out how. Not to let my own competitiveness, like get in the way of me like being one of our biggest fans. Mm-hmm. It's such a hard thing when you're so competitive.

Chase Adams: It was, I mean I was really, I really was happy for him 'cause he, you know, he'd had his own stuff throughout life, so it was really good to see him.

He broke three hours before I did, and then. I actually had a DNF at monumental in 19.

Ally Brettnacher: Oh no. What happened?

Chase Adams: Um, calf strain, like I kind of went into it [00:35:00] with a bit of a, a, a niggle already. Yeah. and I could really feel it. Early on in the race, and we got to that split where you take the half or you can go the full.

Yeah. I was like, I'll be all right. I'll be all right. And got to about 10 miles and I could not walk anymore. It was,

Ally Brettnacher: oh no,

Chase Adams: I like, it was just bad. So, that was a rough one because also he, he ran like 2 45 that day. Oh my gosh.

Ally Brettnacher: And you're just like. Oh yeah.

Chase Adams: And I did, I about, I about gave it up. Like I real, that was really a tough situation to, to go through.

Was that first DNF? Um, yeah. I mean, I know everybody does it, but it's, or you know, PE a lot of people go through it anyway, but Right. but that was really hard on the mentality. Yeah. To try and, you know, keep pushing forward.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Yeah. Nothing knocks you down like that. You're like, okay, great. I couldn't even do it.

Chase Adams: Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: Especially after all the hard work you put in training wise. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I've had, technically, I've had 1D NF at a [00:36:00] marathon. I tried to do the Philadelphia Marathon after I'd already done Chicago the same year, and I got super sick like I was, I had no business running at all, but I was very stubborn and I had traveled for it, and I was with my girlfriends and.

Yeah, it was the same situation as monumental. but it was like right at the halfway point it split and so, you know, you could just peace. I'm gonna go just like finish the race the half. Mm-hmm. And then, yeah, so that's what I ended up doing there. I don't know if I'll ever go for redemption, but How did you get back after that?

Chase Adams: I was actually, I was really fortunate. Because my sister and I had already signed up for dopey that very next January, so

Ally Brettnacher: Oh, and that's not a small thing, so I didn't know about that. No.

Chase Adams: , So yeah, I, I, I had already committed to the next race, essentially. Yeah. so I spent the next two months really 'cause Monumentals in November.

Dopeys in January. Kind of telling myself, I'm just gonna get through dopey and you know, we're just gonna get this out of the way, and then I'm gonna take a nice long break and really kind of evaluate [00:37:00] things. Mm. but that's not how it worked out. Went down there to this last word. Yeah. Went down to Disney and came back.

Just raring to go out. Oh my gosh. Reinvigorated out of. Just like nothing else. I, I like the fire inside of me. It was just totally ignited, ready to go in. Let's, let's figure it out. 150%. Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: For people listening who don't know what dopey is. Mm-hmm. Will you explain that?

Chase Adams: So dopey every year, Disney has their marathon weekend.

And of course they have a lot of different running events throughout the year, but most of 'em tap top out at like a half marathon. This is their full marathon weekend that they do. And over the course of that weekend, they do a 5K on the Thursday, they do a 10 K on Friday, a half marathon on Saturday.

That's so crazy. And then a full marathon on Sunday. And to do the dopey challenge, you do all four races all four days.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Yeah, it's just wild. I know. I've had people on that have done that. I'm just like trying to fathom [00:38:00] being able to, so was that the first year you did Dopey in 2019?

Chase Adams: 20? It was 2020. Oh,

Ally Brettnacher: it was 2020.

Okay. So they, oh, that right. So you snuck it in before the world shut down?

Chase Adams: Yes. I probably helped. Right. I think about that all the time. 'cause like we were so crammed together. People, I mean, people from all over the world were at Disney World. Yeah. And that was in January, so it's like

Ally Brettnacher: 2020, right? Yeah.

You're like, that wasn't good, but hey, at least you got it in before. Mm-hmm. Races were canceled for that whole year. Yeah. Did you have stuff on your calendar after that?

Chase Adams: No, I did not. Okay. Well least that's because I was kind of Yeah. You said you were gonna, I was kind of done and, and so that was it. But And when I came back from, from Disney, obviously, I, I was like, all right, what can I do? and I can't remember what it was that I signed up for. It might've been flying Pig, or it might've been grandma's. but anyway, that was before actually everything shut down. Yeah. And then even when everything started shutting down, I remember the caramel marathon was one of the last ones to [00:39:00] like.

Nix it. Like they, they pushed it back, I think one time into like the beginning of June, which is a horrible time to run a marathon. But yeah. But I was, I was, that's how like, on fire I was to run in at that time. Yeah. So I really wanted to do it and then they finally canceled it all together. But that led to me.

Coming back to Carmel in 21. Okay. Because I just carried over my registration.

Ally Brettnacher: Oh yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. Mm-hmm. How was, how was the weather in 21? Uh, perfect.

Chase Adams: I think. Perfect. I mean, it was

Ally Brettnacher: 21 when you qualified for Boston.

Chase Adams: 21 was when I qualified for Boston. Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: So you just took that fire from Dopey and just trained for that.

That's a long time to like be training with no races. I know a lot of people experienced that.

Chase Adams: Yeah, it was, it was pretty tough like over that year trying to. Find races and then mm-hmm. Being hopeful that they're gonna happen and then they don't. Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Did you, are you a solo runner mostly? Like, do you typically train Yeah.

By yourself, typically? Yeah. Yeah.

Chase Adams: And that's, that's, I guess it's a, a fault of my own, but [00:40:00] like a lot of people around my town, even the, the people that run, they know that I run a lot and they know that, you know what, what I can do. So people don't think that that. Uh, I wanna run with other people, but I do.

Oh yeah. You're just like, this is

Ally Brettnacher: my schedule. Yeah. Like

Chase Adams: I, I, I will happily run with other people. Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: But,

Chase Adams: but no, I typically just run solo. Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: I'm the same way though. Like I just, 'cause again, my schedule PE and not very many people have a schedule that's like, I run just kind of when I fit it in.

That doesn't, that's not very conducive to. To planning with other people. But I have started running my long runs with other people, or at least parts of it. Like my coach is local and so she'll join me for some miles. And then I have a friend I met through this podcast and so she, we've started doing our long runs together, which is just nice to have company for some of those really tough ones.

But I tend to just run by myself, which I don't mind.

Chase Adams: Mm-hmm.

Ally Brettnacher: But I don't mind running with other people either. Just kind of depends.

Chase Adams: I've really wanted to like start a run club in, in town and I've been kind of challenged by my, my first form coach [00:41:00] to, to do that. Yeah. So maybe that, that should be in the works here soon.

Well, now you

Ally Brettnacher: said it out loud, so Yeah,

Chase Adams: I said it out loud and it's gonna be out there. It's gonna be on the internet. We're gonna hear, yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay. That clip over and over. It's

Chase Adams: commitment now. Yep.

Ally Brettnacher: So the Vincent's running glove. Um, yeah, it's, I, I've never been part of a running club, which is so weird because I love community so much, but just for whatever reason, I, I never have.

but I do love running clubs. I think the idea of building that community, especially where you are, is really cool. So,

Chase Adams: yeah, it's so, it's such an easy thing to get out and do together that it's great to see how popular the sport has become. Right. And, and. Uh, that's of course leading to more run clubs and more comradery and Yeah.

And all that. So it, it's really cool, like just the evolution of the sport. Is it crazy cool? I know we talk about it on our show all the time. Yeah. About, yeah. You know, all these things that happen with the more people. Doing marathons and getting, you know, these marathon fields getting expanded, but then like Boston Marathon qualifying times are getting faster.

I know. Yeah. It's [00:42:00] all just a testament to like how popular the sport is, right? Mm-hmm. Whether you like it or not, like that's just the way it is. Yeah. And more people are doing it, and more people want to get faster and that's,

Ally Brettnacher: yeah. I don't like it because I have not qualified for Boston yet. So it's just like, okay, people stop getting faster.

I need, I need some grace here, or at least I wanna know what time I have to hit. Right. It'd be great. Great. So back to 21 when you qualified for Boston. Mm-hmm. Um, was your wife Kelly there, was your family there?

Chase Adams: Yep. and my friend Michael from Lawrence. All right,

Ally Brettnacher: so he was there. Yep. Is he running too or is he there to He,

Chase Adams: he raced that day.

Uh, he had already qualified for Boston. Okay. At monumental, so. Okay. Uh, he was still good to get in, but yeah, he raced that day and, then we went to Boston together.

Ally Brettnacher: Oh, you got to go together? Mm-hmm. That's really cool.

Chase Adams: Yeah, that was kind of always the plan. so I appreciated him waiting for me to get my boss.

Well, exactly, because it's

Ally Brettnacher: like, that's so painful. I mean, back to what I was saying about my friend Ashley, I'm like, God, if she goes to Boston without me, [00:43:00]

Chase Adams: like that

Ally Brettnacher: sucks. We're running friends, like we're supposed to go together. Mm-hmm. And so it's just interesting. But seasons of life Yeah. Or whatever circumstances you're dealing with, make it hard to get that.

Like to line up.

Chase Adams: Yeah. Yeah. So that's

Ally Brettnacher: really special.

Chase Adams: Yeah. We, I mean, that was kinda always the goal, but, and, and he didn't, I think he wasn't as motivated as I was to, to do it, but. We were definitely, we, we both had the same coach obviously, so we, we look up to him for the same reasons and it was a good time.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Okay. So that would've been 22 then, that you did Boston? 22. Okay. And in 21, after qualifying for Boston, did you do any other races, like for fun or as like part leading up to your training?

Chase Adams: I know I did monumental that year.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah, you pretty much do monumental every year, right? Pretty,

Chase Adams: pretty much.

Yeah. yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: Thank you. Good. Monumental.

Chase Adams: And then the Fort Ben half, right? Right. Yeah. Pretty well the, my, uh, my perennial races. Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: Well, mine too now, so I'm surprised I haven't like, seen you there at, Fort Ben. Well, I'll see you this year. Yeah, for sure. I will be there. And then I had to sign up for the [00:44:00] half at Monumental, even though I'm doing Marine Corps, which is two weeks before.

Chase Adams: Mm-hmm.

Ally Brettnacher: Because our legacy program just was announced, and so I want to get my medallion for doing, uh, however many, I think it'll be my eighth. Half at monumental. Okay. So if you've done five or more, you get a medallion. So you'll get a medallion five

Chase Adams: or more of each of the distance. Okay.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah, I think it has to be each one.

I should know

Chase Adams: I've bounced back and forth quite a bit, that's why. Yeah. So I

Ally Brettnacher: mean, same. I remember a few

Chase Adams: years ago we had the really cool like four metal Yeah. Series, and I missed out on that one because I did the half, I think a couple times. Yeah. In that time span.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. That. It's funny. People love that and also hated it.

'cause if you were traveling in from out of town and you got like a random n

Chase Adams: you're like,

Ally Brettnacher: what the hell? I, I am not gonna come back. I'm doing my 50 states or like, whatever the circumstances might have been. Yeah. So funny. So I don't think we'll do that again, but, um, I do, I love our medals now. They feel like.

So legit. Mm-hmm. They're so thick and like, reminds me of what I've, I've only seen one Olympic gold medal When? When we had Cole [00:45:00] Hawker. Pretty cool. I did get to hold, hold it. That was pretty cool. That was pretty cool. That was pretty cool. before we nerd out more, I wanna talk more about specific races that you've done, because we've talked about a few.

So the Boston experience, I guess we didn't spend much time on the actual experience of running Boston. What was that like?

Chase Adams: Amazing. That's what everyone says. I, I, I can't really, it's hard to put into words. Um,

Ally Brettnacher: did you race it or did you in, or you just go to

Chase Adams: run? I tried. I mean, yeah, I, I, I had a very good time, so I don't, that's not the case, but I was trying to, I feel like going into Boston, I was actually in probably some of the best shape of my life.

but Boston is Boston and. You can try to prepare as, as much as possible, but it takes a special kind of person to be able to go to Boston for the first time in pr. And I

Ally Brettnacher: don't know how people do that.

Chase Adams: I, yeah. So I think at the time I might have had a half marathon p going through that way. Wow. There you go.

but yeah, I was, my legs were just dead going up the hills, so. Yeah. Yeah. But [00:46:00] the experience will, it, it, you can't even. Like I said, it's hard to put into words. Mm-hmm. I've never been somewhere where there's just a, a wall of people on both sides of you. Right. For the entire way, like 26 miles of people.

And, and I took my headphones, like when I went and I had them in. but I think I paused him at one point. I turned 'em back on, but then I ran by a sorority and I couldn't even hear my music. Right. Yeah. So I was just, I'm just taking these out, like there's no point in even Yeah. And I, you really shouldn't anyway.

'cause the, the fan support and the crowd support is so unreal. Yeah. That I, if I go back, I'm definitely not wearing headphones again.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I hope I get there some point. And then you've done, speaking of majors, you've done Berlin.

Chase Adams: Mm-hmm.

Ally Brettnacher: Have you done any of the other majors?

Chase Adams: Chicago.

Ally Brettnacher: Chicago, yeah.

Okay. So what years did you do those?

Chase Adams: Uh, I did Chicago last year. Berlin before that. The year before that. So three years in a row. I did Boston, Berlin, and Chicago.

Ally Brettnacher: That's pretty cool. How'd you get in?

Chase Adams: time.

Ally Brettnacher: Time? Mm-hmm. Yeah. That's, yeah.

Chase Adams: Qualified for Berlin. Nice to be [00:47:00] fast.

Ally Brettnacher: It it is. It's, yeah. Okay. It is.

I didn't realize, I guess, you know, because it's not something that I'm looking to do for other races. I didn't realize you could, I knew you could for New York, I guess I kind of knew for Chicago, but I didn't realize all, so every major you can time qualify.

Chase Adams: Yes. Um, but I think London and Tokyo are pretty stiff.

Okay. So I don't think I'll be able to do that. Yeah. I'm, or at least not. I'm, I'm getting older, so I don't know if I'm gonna be able to get that fast, but,

Ally Brettnacher: yeah. And so for London and Tokyo. London, you could join the lottery now, right? For I 26 think. Yeah. It's hard for me to keep track mm-hmm. Of the windows.

Yeah. But I'll just see people share that they just entered the lottery, so then I'm like, oh, I should probably throw my name in the hat, which I don't think I have yet. and then I forget when I do, I'm like, did I enter the lottery? I have no idea. so you, have you been entering the lotteries for London and Tokyo?

Chase Adams: No. I know a lot of people like to knock 'em out real quick, but I'm not really, really, shoot you started real quick. I kind [00:48:00] of did. That was kind of, that was kind of the goal was to do one a year. Yeah. but then this year kind of came around and, um, it's actually my wife and i's five year anniversary, so we're taking a big trip in October to Greece.

Oh. So I'm so jealous. Yeah. Uh, we're, we've, so if you do the math right, it's our five year anniversary. We got married in 2020. Oh

Ally Brettnacher: dear.

Chase Adams: So Greece was supposed to, Greece was supposed to be our honeymoon. Oh, no. So anyway, five year anniversary.

Ally Brettnacher: Yes, yes.

Chase Adams: so I'm not, so that's why I, I didn't try to do any major races this year.

and even like kind of going into spring of next year with London and Tokyo. Yeah. 'cause it was just kind of going in, going to Greece and then it's kind of too quick of a turnaround to try and make another big trip out of it. But yeah. But I'm planning on trying to get into New York next year. Okay.

Okay. So hopefully at monumental I can run a qualifying time for New York. Okay.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay. What would that look like for age 40?

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Ally Brettnacher: Okay. What would that look like for age 40?

Chase Adams: Uh, 2 58.

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Chase Adams: It is.

Ally Brettnacher: Do you work with a coach now? Is first, is first form? like, uh, no. Tell us what that is. I don't know what that is.

Chase Adams: Oh, first forms, uh, supplement.

Uh, they would, they would tell you they're a, people helping business, but they're supplements. okay. Cool. Very, clean ingredients. They're everything's, you know, FDA, tested, they're, they don't, they treat their supplements like food then rather than supplements. So, that's why I like, I like working with them.

Um, they have a very good ambassador or Legionnaire program is what they call it. Okay. So, yeah, I, I, they, they kind of fuel me for, for my training. Okay.

Ally Brettnacher: Nice. Do they have gels and nutrition too, or mainly supplement?

Chase Adams: Uh, mostly supplements. There's no gels right now. They do have like [00:51:00] hydration sticks.

Okay. But, um, like they've got the su a lot of the supplements that they have are basically like taking gels. Okay. So they've got, you know, they've got enough fuel to get you through your run.

Ally Brettnacher: Nice. That's cool. Mm-hmm. How long have you been working with them?

Chase Adams: A little over a year now.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay.

Chase Adams: Um, and just kind of in the background, haven't really.

Dove into it a whole lot, but they, again, they do such a great job with their ambassadors as far as educating them on the products and Right. And also they've allowed me to start working on my personal nutrition certification so that I can become a coach Oh. Um, as well. So it's just a really good company with really good values and, and a good message that they're putting forward.

Ally Brettnacher: That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. I've trying to. Hone in on my nutrition piece. Mm. Because it's so interesting. Runners pay to have a running coach to go to physical therapy. And now I'm like, well, why don't I invest the time and money in nutrition? Mm-hmm. Because it's a piece that I've never really tried to dial in very well.

Like, I like to have gels that don't upset my stomach. Sure. But that's about it. [00:52:00] so I'm excited to see what's possible there.

Chase Adams: It's a tough thing to like really get dialed in because I know a lot of people think that I. a lot of people that like work with me and stuff think that I used to eat healthy.

Yeah. But I mean, in reality, I, I should eat healthier as with as active as I am and as much miles as I get in. Like there's certain things that Yeah. I do that look healthy on the outside, but maybe it's really not.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Well, I mean, for me, I run in part so that I don't have to worry as much about what I eat, so you better believe I'm getting a cheeseburger, french fries, and a milkshake after a long run.

Chase Adams: Mm-hmm.

Ally Brettnacher: I love pizza, like all the things. So there's definitely room for improvement, but it's also like, I wanna live, I don't wanna, be so stringent that I'm not enjoying the food I love, so it's like a ba healthy balance for me. Mm-hmm. But, you know, anyway. Okay. So what about Run Running Coach?

Have you worked with a coach?

Chase Adams: I have, not currently. Okay. But, for basically the last four or five years I've been working with, coach Paul Whitaker. Okay. Who is out of London. Oh, so he, wow. You know, he's remote coached me remotely. [00:53:00] Mm-hmm. but fantastic coach, like he's about under two 20 marathoner himself.

Ooh. Just had a baby. So, congratulations Paul. Congratulations Paul. Yeah. but yeah, he, I'm not working with him right now, just 'cause I was trying to take a break. Yeah. but then when I decided I was gonna train for indie, I was like, you know, I'm gonna see if I can, I'm gonna see if I can do this myself.

Yeah. See if I've learned enough. From Paul over the years. Right. That I can do this myself. Yeah. So, right. I'm doing a lot of copying and pasting of old Right. Old workouts and stuff. Old workout and stuff. Things that stuff. Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Well, I think that way too, sometimes you're like, you know, if I can hold myself accountable, then I know what to do.

Mm-hmm. But yeah, I mean for me it's like I do love the community that has come part of it, at least locally. Because having a coach that's local now, she has all these athletes, they're not all local, but a lot of 'em are. And so that's nice. 'cause then I feel like. You know, while people don't care what times I run, people do care what times I run, if that makes sense.

Where it's like you have people who are like cheering for you.

Chase Adams: Who's your coach?

Ally Brettnacher: Um, I, I run with Rachel Senders. Okay. So she has Team RMR, Rachel Michelle running.

Chase Adams: Okay.

Ally Brettnacher: [00:54:00] So, yeah, she's the only coach I've ever had for, for running and I used to think I didn't need one.

Chase Adams: Mm-hmm. And

Ally Brettnacher: now I totally understand why, why it exists.

Chase Adams: Yeah. Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Chase Adams: And, and there's definitely like good and bad ones too, 'cause like. Yeah, Paul. So I did, I, I talked about how I didn't really have a coach early on. Yeah. When I finally did kind of break down and decide I wanted to get a coach.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Chase Adams: My first coaching experience was just really not that good.

So, Ooh. So then you're like,

Ally Brettnacher: is this what it's like, this sucks. Yeah.

Chase Adams: Yeah. So it was, it was pretty bad. And, I just rem the way that I started working with Coach Paul. I think I got like one of his random Instagram ads or something like that. Um. And I clicked on it, and I just remember getting a message from him.

Yeah. And I was like, I've already got a coach right now. Tell me why I should switch to you. Yeah. And that's all I said. Yeah. And he just, he sent me back this big long message about he, he'd already like, looked at me and kind of knew what kind of capability I already had, and I was just like, all right, well

Ally Brettnacher: cool.

Chase Adams: So yeah, let's try it. the [00:55:00] rest is history, so. Wow,

Ally Brettnacher: that's really cool. So how was Berlin?

Chase Adams: Berlin was awesome.

Ally Brettnacher: I, ugh,

Chase Adams: I, that, that was probably the funnest marathon that I think I've done. Yeah. I, I also had fun there. Like I didn't really race that one, but, but yeah, it was a great experience, like just going to Germany and being there and they, they put on a great event too, uh, with.

Shakeout runs and, and breakfasts and all kinds of stuff like the, the race itself put on this gigantic shakeout run that ended in. the stadium and they had just breakfast for everybody. That's cool. Like thousands of people. Wow. That's horrible. And I was like that. Yeah. That was really awesome. So

Ally Brettnacher: had you ever been out of the country?

Chase Adams: Yes. That was not my first time outta the country. Okay.

Ally Brettnacher: I've talked to people, it's their first time out of the country. I'm like, you first time ever leaving the country, you're gonna run a marathon. That's insane. was it your first time in Germany?

Chase Adams: It was, yeah. Yeah. First time in Europe, so, okay.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. I feel like Germany compared to other European countries is pretty efficient, which is nice for.

Marathons. Yeah. Being like organized [00:56:00] and

Chase Adams: yeah, Berlin was definitely very easy to get around. I, the, the expo for it, at least the year I did it, I don't know if they do it the same every year, uh, but it's in this like old airplane hangar, so it's, it's a really cool like, setting for it. Yeah. for the expo.

So That's cool. I like that a lot.

Ally Brettnacher: Nice. Did you travel with anyone else who was running the, the race?

Chase Adams: Nope. That one was, uh, just me and me and Kelly. We Nice. Just took a solo trip over there. Went, you know, took in sites of Germany, did a concentration camp, went to the wall, that sort of thing. Okay. Okay.

But it, we stayed there for about a week afterwards. That's

Ally Brettnacher: nice. Yeah. That's nice to be able to enjoy. Although, like walking around. In Europe. 'cause you do a lot of walking in Europe. Yeah, you do. Yeah. It's probably, probably good for you, frankly, but also kind of hard.

Chase Adams: Yeah. Yeah. It can be. Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. well, and we were chatting with Kelly before we recorded about how hard it is to spectate.

And so for her, like she's by herself trying to figure out how to navigate Germany. Did she like try to bop around in Berlin?

Chase Adams: No, she didn't. Um,

Ally Brettnacher: that'd be [00:57:00] so hard.

Chase Adams: Well, yeah, and berlin's a, a loop course, so it's a little, easier I would think to do that. Right. Plus I, and obviously I wasn't a spectator, but I think they, work the train system or the subway system in conjunction with the race too.

So you could, they make it really easily for you to understand, like Yeah. To kind of see your, you should get off here

Ally Brettnacher: if that's what you're trying to do. Right, right.

Chase Adams: That's that sort of thing.

Ally Brettnacher: That's so helpful. Yeah. Did you watch the roller bladers? Yes, we did. Yes, we did.

Chase Adams: We got right up on the, we were actually under the, uh, uh, the tear garden, monument.

Okay. That's right there in the middle of there. Their park and I was getting, I just watch 'em start the starting line. They were just coming straight at us and then they break into two formations to go around the roundabout and it was pretty neat.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah, I think that would be such a sight to see. I had no idea that was a thing until I had this woman on my podcast who she actually did the rollerblading.

I think I, to qualify for the next, I

Chase Adams: either heard you talking about that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I

Ally Brettnacher: was like, that's. Hilarious. It just, to me, it's funny and I, I don't know why it's so funny. I, you [00:58:00] know, I'd never really been a rollerblader. Mm-hmm. And so maybe that's why it's funny, the idea, thinking about myself trying to do that is, is comical.

But yeah, people training for that. But then you see the videos of the profe, like the people who are.

Chase Adams: Oh yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: Holy crap. It's incredible.

Chase Adams: Yeah, they had like their formations and everything. It was, yeah,

Ally Brettnacher: you're like pretty wild. Whoa. That's a whole nother, whole nother sport. So then Berlin and then was Chicago?

Mm-hmm. Was Chicago last year. Last year. Okay. Last year. I've done Chicago four times. I love Chicago.

Chase Adams: Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: I was just there this last weekend. I love running there. There's just something about that city. It was my first marathon, and so like, it's just so special. It's got

Chase Adams: that special place. Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: But how was, how was that last year?

Chase Adams: it was all right. Um, it, it was a great experience because it was actually the first time that me and Jake and Carolyn all got together.

Ally Brettnacher: Oh. And met in person.

Chase Adams: Yeah. So it was the first time that we'd all met in person, all three of us. It's so funny

Ally Brettnacher: to think about Yeah. After like, the amount of time you spent talking.

Yeah,

Chase Adams: it is, it was pretty crazy. So, yeah. So in, in that regard, it was a very special race. We got to [00:59:00] record an episode, which the sound was a little iffy on, but of course. Yeah. It's

Ally Brettnacher: so hard. Yeah. On the road, you're like, oh, okay.

Chase Adams: Yeah, it was, it was a fun time overall. and I don't know if I'll go back and do Chicago again anytime soon.

I really want to do, speaking of just running in Chicago, I wanted to do Soldier Field 10 before. Oh, they tear down Soldier Field, so that's, oh,

Ally Brettnacher: see, I didn't know that, that that was a race, and I didn't know they were tearing down soldier field either.

Chase Adams: Well, they're getting an, I don't know that they're tearing it down, but like they're building a new stadium.

Okay.

Ally Brettnacher: See, I don't know anything for

Chase Adams: the bears. Okay. So I assume that it's probably got less than five years left. Okay. does

Ally Brettnacher: it end in the stadium?

Chase Adams: Yes. That's cool. So it's similar to the Colt's 5K, but it's a 10 miler.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. That's fun. Yeah. I've done, oh my gosh, I don't even know the name of the race I did in Nashville, Tennessee, where we finished in the stadium.

Mm-hmm. It is so cool. I've done at least one other one. Illinois maybe finishes in the stadium, I don't know. But now our monumental kids, 5K for beyond monumental, we also finish in the Lucas Oil, which is just like. [01:00:00] Seeing those kids in there, so cool. cause most of them's never even been in an NFL stadium ever, so Yeah,

Chase Adams: I'm running that 5K for the first time this year, so I'm looking forward to it.

Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. yeah, that'll be fun. We talked a little bit about do, do you do costumes for Disney?

Chase Adams: No, not really. We, uh, we kind of get some shirts made. Okay. But nothing, so you're just kind of, I mean,

Ally Brettnacher: there's a whole series of levels of Disney.

You know,

Chase Adams: I bought a Daffy duck hat this year. Yeah. So I ran in that a couple times, but no, we didn't, We don't, we don't go That do go all out. Yeah. We don't go that crazy. The

Ally Brettnacher: people watching there has to be fantastic.

Chase Adams: It is, yeah. For sure. Just Disney in general. But yeah, it's, uh, you definitely see some, some interesting costumes, that's for sure.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Will you do that? So how many times have you done dopey?

Chase Adams: Twice. Twice, okay.

Ally Brettnacher: Will you do that again? Do you

Chase Adams: Disney? Uh, I, I probably will. but Disney's getting. I don't like the direction that they're going with. Like they're, they're running. Yeah, they're making it more, everyday kind of person friendly, which is [01:01:00] good.

Kind of getting, it's harder to get in. Like for instance, like when we, when you sign up, the last year when we signed up, dopey sold out within 45 minutes. Yeah. So I did dopey this past year, but my sister didn't get in. My brother didn't get in. Oh

Ally Brettnacher: geez.

Chase Adams: so like I was the only one that ended up doing the, all four of them.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Chase Adams: No, I was great. I, I had somebody to ra run with every day.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Chase Adams: But just never the same people every day.

Ally Brettnacher: Right, right. Okay. So you mentioned sister, brother, and then you have another brother.

Chase Adams: Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: Does he run too? Do you all run?

Chase Adams: Yeah, pretty much. That's cool. Um, my brothers aren't really like runners per se.

Uh, my older,

Ally Brettnacher: well you put, you make the bar kind of high for that, like

Chase Adams: Yeah, yeah. It's my whole

Ally Brettnacher: personality kind

Chase Adams: of. Yeah. They got their own things going on, which is really good. But yeah, they run to stay in shape and yeah. You know, they're all, they've all got their own little fitness goals, but

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Chase Adams: Yeah. I've ran races, I think with every one of 'em at some point.

Ally Brettnacher: That's cool. That's really cool. And you've done Indie Mini, which you mentioned. Mm-hmm. That's our local race that goes around the motor speedway, [01:02:00] which is super cool. Mm-hmm. How, how many times have you done that?

Chase Adams: I think only two or three.

Okay. I haven't done that one a whole lot. I really like the Flying Pig in Cincinnati. Yeah. Um, which is

Ally Brettnacher: the same weekend. Yeah,

Chase Adams: it's the same weekend. So I've, I've been to that one. Two or three times too. But I'd like to make it to the mini more often.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah, you should. It's great. But also I'm intrigued by doing the flying pig too.

Some people go back to back. Have you done that?

Chase Adams: As in

Ally Brettnacher: like they run the mini on Saturday and then they go to Flying Pig on Sunday. Oh.

Chase Adams: Oh, okay. No, I have not done that.

Ally Brettnacher: Like your own little dopey. Um,

Chase Adams: because normally when I do the. Flying pig. I kind of do the dopey. I don't know what you know about the flying pig, but

Ally Brettnacher: Oh, clearly not enough.

Chase Adams: Um, so they have their own challenge, which is, okay, so Skyline chili puts on the flying pig. so it's kind of centered around that. But they have the three-way with cheese or they have three. That's so funny. They have the, I did not know that. So they have the chili threeway.

Ally Brettnacher: Mm-hmm.

Chase Adams: And the chili threeway is so on Saturday at the Flying Pig,

Ally Brettnacher: making me so hungry, actually

Chase Adams: they do the 10 K and the 5K.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay.

Chase Adams: [01:03:00] So to do the chili three-way, you do both of those races on the Sunday, they do the half marathon and the full marathon at the same time. Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: So you have to, so the chili

Chase Adams: threeway is the half marathon with the 5K and the 10 K.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay.

Chase Adams: Chili four way is the full marathon with the 5K and the 10 K. And then you can do the three-way or the with cheese, they do a one mile race on Friday night.

Oh my

Ally Brettnacher: gosh. So with cheese, like who's gonna get it without cheese? Exactly. Go do the

Chase Adams: mile. Yeah, you're already running. You're already running so much. That's

Ally Brettnacher: so funny. I didn't realize all of that. Mm-hmm. I, I spent a lot of time with people from Cincinnati because where I went to college was in Ohio.

Mm-hmm. And it was like between, I went to Miami of Ohio, which is between Dayton and Cincinnati. Mm-hmm. And so, yeah, we had a Skyline chili on campus. So I've had many, many chili threeway. probably not while sober. but my dad also really likes Skyline. So when we were growing up, he would take us a lot and we'd always be like, please don't take us to Skyline, but.

But he, that was his jam. So we would go and we would eat it and it's delicious. Do they have it at the finish line?

Chase Adams: Oh yeah. You get like a free, you get, you get a [01:04:00] free dish and everything. Oh my

Ally Brettnacher: gosh. Did you eat it at the finish line?

Chase Adams: Maybe. Have you done the

Ally Brettnacher: marathon or the half?

Chase Adams: Um, I don't think I've done the full at the flying pig before.

I think I've always done the chili three way. Okay. So, um, I do wanna do the four way with cheese at some point, so.

Ally Brettnacher: Sounds so silly.

Chase Adams: Yeah, I know, right? Yeah. But that, I don't know when that'll happen.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah, that's cool. Well, I've seen, I've chatted with people during the mini, like while running I saw a guy with a flying pig shirt and I was like, Hey, you run in tomorrow too.

And he is like, yep, you're nuts. But it is possible. I mean, we're not that far from Cincinnati. Yeah. I mean. If you were racing, it's a different story, but if you're just going to cover the mileage and have fun mm-hmm. Then I I, although it's pretty hilly, there

Chase Adams: it is. Yeah. That's a hilly course, so

Ally Brettnacher: that scares me a little bit.

But the mini is super flat, so certainly possible.

Chase Adams: Mm-hmm. Yes. And

Ally Brettnacher: then what other races have you done?

Chase Adams: Uh, well I flew out to, my youngest brother lives in Phoenix. I flew out to do Mesa with him. That's right. [01:05:00] Okay.

Ally Brettnacher: Mesa. Yeah,

Chase Adams: that was um, I did the half marathon there. That's my half marathon pr. cause it's a net downhill course.

Yeah. So it's like that. Yeah. And, and they like, especially in the half marathon, like they tell you that it's like, ah, it seems pretty fun. No. Like, I could look out and see people below me. That's amazing.

Ally Brettnacher: Yes. Yes. It

Chase Adams: was, uh, it was pretty intense. So I, I had fun with that race. Yeah. That's

Ally Brettnacher: so nice. My half PR for the longest time was one of the Run Revel races.

Oh really? 'cause they bust you to the top of a mountain and you run down the mountain. So I totally understand why they changed the, the rules for Boston qualifying. But I also was secretly disappointed 'cause I was like, I'm gonna go run down a mountain 'cause I need all the help I can get. I understand why people think it's like cheating, but I'm like, it wasn't.

Now it would be like, 'cause you can't use that time, so. Yeah. Oh, that's cool. Okay. See, so he still lives there.

Chase Adams: Yep.

Ally Brettnacher: And where does your, sister and then your other brother live?

Chase Adams: Uh, sister lives.

Ally Brettnacher: Oh, that's right here.

Chase Adams: A couple miles away, I think that's right.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay.

Chase Adams: And, [01:06:00] uh, my other brother lives down in Illinois.

Okay. Not far from us.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay. Nice man. You've done so many races. What are outside of the majors, what are other races that you want to run? Um.

Chase Adams: I would like to make it back to grandma's. I didn't actually run grandma's. Mm. Um, which, uh, is in Duluth, Minnesota in case anybody doesn't know. Yeah. But yeah. and the reason it's a good race is 'cause it's in June, but it's all the way up north, so.

Mm-hmm. It's not usually as hot as your typical June race, but, I, I did go up there the year that I signed up. but it was the same year that I did Berlin and I was dealing with a, a nasty little hip injury at the time. Yeah. So I didn't wanna make it worse and then risk Berlin. Right. Not happening.

That makes sense. So, uh, we still went there and I still watched the race specd a, a little bit. You

Ally Brettnacher: still hard?

Chase Adams: It was, it was,

Ally Brettnacher: oh yeah, it was,

Chase Adams: kind of seeing everybody. Uh, and I, I did, I still met a lot of people there, which was, a good time too, but. Yeah, I definitely wanna get some redemption for that.

Yeah. Yeah. And then, uh, [01:07:00] I can

Ally Brettnacher: understand that.

Chase Adams: And then I did, I'd like to make it out to CIM do a California race sometime. Ooh.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. That one sounds real nice.

Chase Adams: And Vegas rock and roll is probably one is probably at the top of mine.

Ally Brettnacher: Good. 'cause I'm signed up for next year already.

Chase Adams: Yeah. Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: Come on out. I, I do it every year now.

Chase Adams: Yeah. My uncle lives there so I could Oh. See more family. Yeah. That's

Ally Brettnacher: great. Excuse. Yeah, exactly. I have grown to love it. It's hard. It's a hard race to race. At least for me personally. 'cause you're like, it's a weird, it's at night, but mm-hmm. You've worked night shift and flipped around your schedule, you'll be fine.

Yeah. But it's just a fun environment to be in. For sure.

Chase Adams: It, it looks like so much fun. Fun. I've done, I've done two other rock and roll races, so it's, that one's definitely at the top of my bucket list. Yeah. They do a nice

Ally Brettnacher: job. For sure. You've won a race. Or maybe more than one. I don't know. Yeah, you've won the Vincents half.

Chase Adams: Yeah. It's the hometown race. So I gotta show out and represent,

Ally Brettnacher: I mean, hometown race or not. How did that feel? They have tape. They better have had tape.

Chase Adams: Maybe

Ally Brettnacher: they should have tape. [01:08:00] 'cause that's, I feel like, I mean, they have the whole opportunity to win and like break the tape would be so fun.

Chase Adams: I was, yeah, the first year, I can't remember. The second year, I had fun with it. I actually, Kelly met me about a half mile from the finish line. And handed the dog off to me. So I finished the race With, with

Ally Brettnacher: Your Dog? With my

Chase Adams: dog and, uh, Oliver. Yeah. I

Ally Brettnacher: love that

Chase Adams: name.

Ally Brettnacher: You call him Ollie?

Chase Adams: No, that was the plan, but he just never really responded to it.

So he stuck with Oliver.

Ally Brettnacher: You're like, Ollie. He's like, Nope, you are like Oliver. And he is like, cool. Alright. Guess you're, that's it.

Chase Adams: That's like my mom, my mom's name's Kimberly, but my aunt's the only one that can call her Kim. So

Ally Brettnacher: yeah, there you go.

Chase Adams: Whatever.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Oh my gosh, that's so funny. Did you win the race with Oliver?

Chase Adams: Mm-hmm. That's cool. It was pretty cool. I mean, it's always fun to, to win a race, obviously, and to be able to win a race in front of like your hometown [01:09:00] is, is fun too. It's an, it's like a young race. The the Vincent's half is, and. but we got a really good young group of people that are putting it on every year.

Cool. So the, the future for it looks really good. I think we had around 300 people last year, maybe fun. So, but yeah, it's a great time and like I said, Vince ends is got like some sneaky history and some, some pretty nice scenery for a small town, so.

Ally Brettnacher: Right. What time of year is that one?

Chase Adams: April.

April. Okay. So it's early April,

Ally Brettnacher: early April. Nice. Mm-hmm. And then what's the, is it flat?

Chase Adams: Yeah, very flat. Okay. Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: Which I don't know. 'cause southern Indiana.

Chase Adams: Mm-hmm. There's some hills

Ally Brettnacher: down there. Some

Chase Adams: places. Yeah. Some kind of rolling hills, but no, this one's pretty flat.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Okay. Flatter than Carmel.

Chase Adams: Yeah,

Ally Brettnacher: because people got mad at me for saying Carmel was flat.

It's, they're like rolling hills. I'm like, well, I guess it is. But compared to like Geist or Fort Ben mm-hmm. That have what I would call hills.

Chase Adams: Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: I feel like Carmel doesn't have any hills to speak of.

Chase Adams: I remember like the second time I did Carmel thinking that it was hillier than I remembered [01:10:00] it. Yeah.

But even that's on like the first half really. It's, and it's like you said, rolling hills.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Chase Adams: So,

Ally Brettnacher: yeah, I was like, I always convinced myself that my muscles just need to change. So it's nice when there's. A little bit of elevation. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just talking to myself about Mon, or not monumental, but, um, Marine Corps is really hilly, like the first five or six miles, so I'm a little nervous about that.

Chase Adams: I'd like to do that one too, that

Ally Brettnacher: it's incredible.

Chase Adams: My chiropractor's done that one a few times. Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: It's really cool. You go like, it's a true tour of DC mm-hmm. Which, you know, right now is a little nuts, so that'll be interesting to see how come race day. I hope everything is like a little calmer. Yeah.

With the way they've got the, with the way things are going right now, but you know, we shall see.

Chase Adams: , We've talked about doing cherry blossom next year. Okay. 'cause Carolyn's done it a few times. Jake through his run club, has a, has a bid to it for next year, so.

Oh,

Ally Brettnacher: perfect. that'd be fun. I'd

Chase Adams: like to do that one.

Ally Brettnacher: Carolyn's in Texas, right? Mm-hmm. Okay. We didn't talk about where she was at. Yep. Which city? [01:11:00]

Chase Adams: Uh, right outside Dallas.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay, cool. So, yeah, for Cherry Blossom, I have family in Alexandria, Virginia. And so I would love to go and then like stay with them and I'm staying with them for Marine Corps and I would love to have another excuse to go out there.

Um, my brother-in-law is a big runner. He does the JFK 50 miler. He did that Oh wow. For the first time last year. I think he's gonna do it again this year. So I'm like, oh, I wanna go out there for more stuff. So we'll see. But that one's hard to get into. It sells out.

Chase Adams: Think the 50 miler,

Ally Brettnacher: or not the 50 miler?

Well probably that one too. The cherry blossom. But the

Chase Adams: cherry blossom. Oh yeah, I think so.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. It's so interesting how races now are just like for monumental. We're gonna sell out earlier probably than we ever have, which is crazy.

Chase Adams: I actually didn't sign up till like a week or two ago. I got the email that said like 75% full I think, and I was just like, okay, okay, okay.

I'm signing up.

Ally Brettnacher: Make sure I get in. Yeah, I know We had our board meeting and literally they were talking about it and then we talked about the legacy program. I'm like, okay, fine. I'll sign up and I volunteer too. So it's always just a really fun weekend. Mm-hmm. Alright. Oh my gosh. We've been talking for over an [01:12:00] hour.

Chase Adams: Yeah,

Ally Brettnacher: it's crazy. Like literally we just talk about running all day. I'd like Kelly, Kelly is just reading books in the library will be like,

Chase Adams: probably. Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: She's having a great time.

Chase Adams: She, yeah, she's, if she's, if that's what she's doing, she's definitely having a great time. She's got time.

Ally Brettnacher: So I'm gonna ask you the end of the podcast questions now.

Okay. And then I also wanna talk a little bit more about, like nerdy running stuff too. 'cause there's always time for that. so first question is, what is your favorite running mantra and or song?

Chase Adams: So, my favorite running mantra, and I guess not really a running mantra, but more of like a nutritional mantra.

But I love it. And I'm, and I'm stealing it from one of our podcast guests. Okay. And I think he stole it from somebody else too, but I'm totally giving him credit. But that's, and that's Olympic marathoner. Keith Brantley. Okay. Who was ran the 1996 Olympics, but he was on our, uh, show one time. And the thing that he said that will stick with me for all of time is the solution to pollution is dilution.

And I, you know, basically drink your water. You know, and I can't, I, I, [01:13:00] I cannot agree with that enough because obviously I've been running for a really long time.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Chase Adams: And I've had my share of injuries and, you know, every time I get injured I can look back and probably pinpoint, maybe I didn't, wouldn't stretch and write, maybe I wasn't doing my strength work or I wasn't warming up.

Something like that. Yeah. But there's always one thing that's common every time I get injured and I'm like, I have not been drinking enough water. So like I love that saying, and I love the fact that he said that on our podcast. 'cause it's like, I, I drink so much water all the time. It's just kind of, I, I truly believe that if you just drink a lot of water, you can avoid a lot of injuries.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Yeah. It's always something I can improve on. Mm-hmm. I went through a time where I had like the big gallon jug

Chase Adams: mm-hmm.

Ally Brettnacher: That I would try to drink every day. I did okay. But at least it made me more aware of how much I was drinking. Mm-hmm. Because otherwise I carry around my Stanley all the time. But I don't know necessarily how much I'm drinking, but I try, I try to do better.

Chase Adams: I used to set out, like the first thing I would do, I, at the first, at the beginning of the week, I would come in [01:14:00] with an entire case of water and Okay. Put it under my desk

Ally Brettnacher: and be like,

Chase Adams: and every day the first thing I would do is I'd get out five of them and set 'em on my desk. And it was kind of, it was visual management really.

In automotive manufacturing, that's a big thing. So it was like, but it told me how exactly where I was throughout the day. Right. And if I got to lunch and I still had. Over three bottles of water. Right. I needed to catch up, drink some water. Yeah. And it was really easy too, 'cause I could just grab one and take it with me.

So. Yes.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah. On the water bottles. It's funny, the gallon one that I mentioned, it'd be like motivational, like 2:00 PM like, keep going, you can do it. It's like, oh my gosh. But then, anyway, um, okay. And then music. When you do listen to music, what's your song?

Chase Adams: Man, I'm all over the place.

Really? Uh, I mean, all time I've got, yeah. I've got my own little songs that I, that will always be on my running playlist. But recently I've, I've kind of gone through like a transition this year, and I don't know if it's something with turning 40 or, or, or whatnot, but I've, I've, I've branching [01:15:00] off in some of my, my musical tastes, but something that I've been weirdly into recently is beatboxing.

Oh. And there's this one song out by this band called Beat Pella House. Which is a Korean group of beat boxers, and it's called Freaky Monday. And it is incredible. Like i I, it, you will not believe that it's just people using their voices and their mouths because it's, it's incredible. okay. But it is like, it's the song that gets me going for the past week or so.

Ally Brettnacher: That's cool. I'm definitely gonna go listen to that.

Chase Adams: It's crazy. That sounds nuts.

Ally Brettnacher: I can't even fathom what it sounds like. Yeah. That's a whole subculture. I'm sure.

Chase Adams: Like I said, I've just been on weirdly into like. Different kinds of music this year, and my, my Spotify rap at the end of the year is gonna look way different than the Oh, my, my gosh.

Mine's always

Ally Brettnacher: so weird having young kids. It's just like, you never know what's gonna be on there. okay. And so then the next question is, next finish line and or milestone. So we talked about your five year wedding anniversary. That's big. You always obviously just hit a [01:16:00] milestone birthday. When were you, when did you turn?

40

Chase Adams: December.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay. December of, okay. Mm-hmm. And then, so what's your next finish line?

Chase Adams: Um, I mean, it's monumental really. Okay. I'm trying to qualify for New York, up there.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay.

Chase Adams: Wasn't plan. That wasn't part of the plan Originally at the beginning of the year, I wasn't planning on training for anything, but I kind of realized that.

I was like, well, if I need to get, if I wanna start doing the majors again, I kind of need to look at, you know, started thinking about, we talked about London and Tokyo already. Yeah. And just didn't wanna do two back to back, uh, overseas trips like that.

Ally Brettnacher: Right.

Chase Adams: So, uh, so yeah, we'll try to qualify for New York in Indianapolis.

Ally Brettnacher: It's flat and fast. You, and you've done it a million times.

Chase Adams: Mm-hmm.

Ally Brettnacher: So we just gotta pray that it's not windy like that one time.

Chase Adams: Just one time. Windy, under 20 degrees. Ice, rain or whatever.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Chase Adams: It's been pretty, pretty all right the last couple years. Last couple

Ally Brettnacher: years has been just wonderful. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. So I hope that streak can continue. Yeah,

Chase Adams: it's been perfect. 'cause last year Carolyn visited and the year before that Jake visited the monumental, so. Like, they've just got really good memories of it right now. [01:17:00] Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: Good. Are they gonna come back this year?

Chase Adams: Not this year, I don't think. Oh, man. And Jake was talking about it, but Okay.

I don't think I quite talked him into it. Well,

Ally Brettnacher: maybe after he listens to this, he'll come maybe.

Chase Adams: Yeah,

Ally Brettnacher: he should. It's almost sold out,

Chase Adams: right?

Ally Brettnacher: Plus it's gonna be, it's just every year bigger, better.

Chase Adams: Mm-hmm.

Ally Brettnacher: I'm so excited.

Chase Adams: But he still, like, he, he maintains that that's one of his favorite races. He loves it. So, yeah.

I mean, obviously I'm

Ally Brettnacher: biased, but I mean, for people that wanna run fast, it's like. Hello. This is a great place to do it. Mm-hmm. And it is less expensive to get to, less expensive to stay and eat here. Like all the things, it's just great all around for people who are looking to run fast

Chase Adams: and he's just so underrated.

Ally Brettnacher: It is. Yeah. And we've got Cole Hawker.

Chase Adams: Mm-hmm.

Ally Brettnacher: He was, that was so good having him come.

Chase Adams: Oh yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: He was incredible. I was, I was

Chase Adams: psyched.

Ally Brettnacher: He was like the sweetest team. I got to meet him after. It was like the best thing ever. He was just so kind. He's just such a kid, you know, you're like, wow, this kid, and he's just so good.

I just love cheering him on.

Chase Adams: I was in the middle of the break room at [01:18:00] work whenever that race was going on, and I just like, as he won, I stood up and I was like, I look around and people, yeah, people were like, looking at me funny. I was like, uh, we just, we just wanna gold medal. That's all I said. I was like, we've gotta gold medal.

Understand? You're like, oh

Ally Brettnacher: my gosh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That race. I don't think I watched it live. I think I watched it right after it happened, though. Because I had, I don't know what I was doing. I'm like trying to even remember when that was. Like what time of year, summer.

Chase Adams: Mm-hmm. That would've been August of last year.

Yeah. August. Yeah. About a year ago almost.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Yeah. Crazy. Um, and then a couple other running. I wanna know what your hat's from, 'cause I've been looking at it this whole time. Uh,

Chase Adams: yeah. It's from Alter ego. Alter Ego Running.

Ally Brettnacher: Oh, I knew that. I should have known that. I should have known that. 'cause you also work with them.

I do. Yeah. You're an ambassador for them?

Chase Adams: Mm-hmm. I, uh, they're probably one of the first company that I've. Ever started working with as an ambassador a few years ago now, but, um, I mean, I just like wearing their hats and I, I, yeah. It's so cool. Yeah, they're, they have great designs. They're really breathable and they're like, [01:19:00] I like 'em because they're functional for.

Like not just running. Yeah. Like I, I can wear it, right. I don't feel you can wear anytime weird wearing it out in public. Like I'm not wearing like a, a small little crusher hat, which isn't, it's just not my thing. Like, that's just not my look. But

Ally Brettnacher: crusher hat,

Chase Adams: I've never heard that. Yeah. Like the little, I

Ally Brettnacher: totally know what you're talking about.

Yeah. But it's funny. I've never heard it called that,

Chase Adams: but yeah, so yeah, I really enjoy all three. You go. They're, their hats are just bar none. The best that I've. That I wear.

Ally Brettnacher: And do they have, what else else do they have outside of hats? I know their hats are really

Chase Adams: popular. They do sunglasses. Okay.

They've got a few different things. I got one of their running bags that's really functional. It's called a pocket for the shoes.

Ally Brettnacher: That's key.

Chase Adams: Um, and then just like some other clothes and stuff, but mostly just hats.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay. And what else do you nerd out about when it comes to running? Are you like more of a gear guy or are you like super into the sport guy?

Or both?

Chase Adams: Probably a little bit of both. Yeah. I mean, shoes you could definitely get me on for a while.

Ally Brettnacher: what are you race in usually?

Chase Adams: Right? Usually it's always been Nike ever since, basically, basically since vapor flies. Okay. Um, [01:20:00] I've, I've been Nike, but this past year for Chicago, I went with a six, got the meta speeded skies.

Mm-hmm. and really liked them. I'm still there. You do my speed workouts in. Here and there. Nice, nice. So I, I don't know. I haven't decided if I'm gonna stick with those for the monumental again, I mean, I'm not gonna stick with those. I'll get a new pair, but Yeah. if I'm gonna stick with Asics or

Ally Brettnacher: Right.

Chase Adams: go back to Nike. I've heard mixed reviews, so,

Ally Brettnacher: yeah, it's interesting. Uhhuh interesting. I can't run a Nike for whatever reason. They just aren't great for my feet.

Chase Adams: Hmm.

Ally Brettnacher: So I now go back and forth. Asics, I've been an Asics girl forever.

Chase Adams: Hmm.

Ally Brettnacher: But I also really like Saucony and I like Brooks. So I have like all, I have just too many shoes.

Chase Adams: Yeah. I'm, I'm big on Saucony. I love the endorphin lineup. Like the endorphin speeds have been Yes,

Ally Brettnacher: same. They're so fun. The

Chase Adams: first, the first endorphin speeds are still my, my favorite running shoe of all time. Yeah. And the new ones, the fives are really good too. I like those a lot.

Ally Brettnacher: I just need to stop spending money is what I need.

Chase Adams: I, I cooled off a lot. Like there was like a couple years ago, I [01:21:00] bought way too many shoes. Yeah. I had to like. Bring it in a little, like,

Ally Brettnacher: okay, that's, that's about shoes. I, I'm like, I need to work with more shoe brands somehow so that I can just get the shoes.

Chase Adams: Yeah. Yeah. Jake, Jake has that going for him down there and with his run club that, like I said, that nice Jacksonville Run club community is really great.

They're actually. Think he's sponsored by like OnCloud right now. Oh, okay. And their run club is sponsored by OnCloud right now, so That's cool. He's been getting a few pairs of those shoes, which I've never ran on clouds before, so.

Ally Brettnacher: Well, I, I worked at, what was Jackrabbit in Indianapolis now is owned by Fleet V.

And I worked there for a year and I learned a lot. But what I learned was I did not like on shoes at all until I found the cloud surfers. Mm. Those are the only ons I've ever run in, and they're my treadmill shoes, so I do like those. But some of their shoes, I'm like, yeah, they look nice. But they for me, weren't great for running.

But

Chase Adams: I think when they went away from that speed board, it started to,

Ally Brettnacher: yeah, get a little,

Chase Adams: yeah, a little bit better. More like

Ally Brettnacher: a running shoe. You're like, okay, this is, this is what we're, we're looking for, really.

Chase Adams: Right. Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: Oh man. Well thank you so much for [01:22:00] coming up here to do this. No problem. This is a great time.

So fun. Yeah. To meet you in person. And it's always better than doing it virtually.

Chase Adams: Indiana people gotta stick together, right? Yeah, we do.

Ally Brettnacher: So go listen to Run Talk Live. Where do you host it? Anywhere like Spotify?

Chase Adams: Yep, Spotify. YouTube.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay. You

Chase Adams: can find it on Spotify or YouTube, so.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay. And where can people find you on TikTok and Instagram?

Chase Adams: Chase Chaser? No, pacer, pretty much anything that, any of the social media platforms. If you look for that, that's, that's me.

Ally Brettnacher: Excellent. Well, thank you so much and thanks to everybody who's listened. Mm-hmm. And like I always say, the two people who've watched, 'cause I don't, you know, I don't know how many people watch the video, but, happy running.

Find out. Yeah. To you all.

Chase Adams: Yeah. Happy running.

Ally Brettnacher: Alright. We did it.

Chase Adams: Awesome.

Ally Brettnacher: If you enjoyed this episode of Finish Lines and Milestones from Sandy Boy Productions, please go share rate review. I appreciate your support so much. We can also be internet friends if you'd like. I'm Ally, A-L-L-Y-T, Brett, B-R-E-T-T. That's Alle t Brett runs. Hope to see you again next [01:23:00] week.

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