Finish Lines & Milestones: Episode 148: Quincy Sauer - Be the Energy You Want to Attract

Finish Lines & Milestones: Episode 148: Quincy Sauer - Be the Energy You Want to Attract

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Guest: Quincy Sauer @qsauer

Show Notes:

Quincy Sauer and I met at the finish line of the CNO Indianapolis Monumental Marathon in November 2025.

During this episode, sponsored by Noogs and Amazfit, we talk about:

  • How we met through the Indianapolis Monumental race Founder, Carlton Ray, at the finish line of last year’s race

  • About our experiences on the Board of Directors for Beyond Monumental 

  • The great safety pin shortage of 2012 at Indy Monumental

  • Running her first half marathon because her mom signed Quincy up after a boy broke up with her 

  • Completing the Indy Mini-Marathon 20 times and her mom over 40 times

  • Her first marathon in 2012 at the Chicago Marathon

  • Getting into triathlons - being a swimmer growing up and learning to cycle 

  • The Divas Cycling Club - a woman’s riding and mentorship program

  • Getting scuba certified 

  • Running while traveling and finding Strava to help plan the best routes 

  • Trading the awkwardness of modern dating for a half Ironman

  • The Waikiki Rough Water Swim 

  • The standup comedy class she’s taking

Episode Transcript:

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So thank you. We were able to raise over $150 for them, so I'm really happy about that. and last night I went to an event that featured Elizabeth Smart. If you don't know her story, just Google it. She has a new Netflix [00:02:00] documentary.

She was just on Dak Shepherd's podcast, armchair Expert, and she just wrote a book, detours. So B Indiana company, they create balms, like lip balm and anti chafe Muscle balm, go check them out. they brought her to town. They, they gave $60,000 to the Elizabeth Smart Foundation last year.

So at the event I got to hear a little bit of Elizabeth's story, she signed a copy of her book and I can't help but just being really inspired and motivated to help support this cause. 'cause it's obviously very important. And then I also went to the Indie Minis three Miler event, which is part of a three part series for anybody who's local to Indianapolis, who is running the mini marathon on May 2nd.

They have three events, so this was the first of three and Quincy was there too, but we didn't get to see each other sadly. they had 1600 people at this three miler. And then the sixth miler is on March 7th and the 10 miler is on April 11th, so I'll see you at the next ones. It was a really great race environment, [00:03:00] so you can still sign up for individual ones, and it was a great way to mimic race, environment and just have fun. So. All right. Without further ado, I'm really excited to introduce you to Quincy Sauer.

Quincy and I met ironically at the finish line of a half marathon, and we were introduced by Carlton Ray, who is the founder of the Indianapolis Monumental Marathon. So we talk about that and a little bit about our times spent on the board, for monumental. We talk about how Quincy got into running in the first place.

Her mom signed her up. Spoiler alert, you'll hear more about that story, and we just talk about her running journey, her triathlon journey. And swimming a little bit too. So you might be inspired to sign up for a triathlon after this. And we talked about some of her traveling, her hobbies, and I just, I can't wait for you to get to know Quincy Sauer. Enjoy.

Ally Brettnacher: welcome Quincy Sauer.

Quincy Sauer: Happy to be here.

Ally Brettnacher: We have actually met before, do you even remember that? Because it was at the finish line of monumental.

Quincy Sauer: Yes, absolutely.

I mean, I'm always a little [00:04:00] bit out of it at the end of the race, but I'm on this emotional high and I certainly remember meeting you.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. It was kind of a blur because Carlton Ray pulled me over. She's like, you gotta meet Quincy and you've gotta have her on your podcast. And I was like, absolutely.

Sign me up. Anybody. Carlton sends my way. I know. Is gonna be amazing. So,

Quincy Sauer: well,

Ally Brettnacher: thank you Carlton. Well, I like

Quincy Sauer: my annual, reunion with Carlton at the finish line.

Ally Brettnacher: Yep. Yeah, that has to be, it is nice 'cause so many familiar faces.

Quincy Sauer: Yes. And I love how he has perfect attendance. I think he has been at the every single monumental finish line.

So and it, it amazes me. There's so many people crossing that finish line, but I always seem to stop and, you know, have the handshake from Carlton and which follows by the hug since I know him.

Ally Brettnacher: Yes, yes. Yeah. The sweaty hug, you're like, are you sure you wanna hug?

Quincy Sauer: Exactly.

Ally Brettnacher: How many people have you hugged before this?

Yeah. Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: I always feel really bad 'cause he's nice and clean and obviously I just ran the race.

Ally Brettnacher: Right? Yeah. So how many times have you run monumental?

Quincy Sauer: Not that many. because I [00:05:00] have been at. almost every race, except for one year. It was my 20th college reunion, so I, I had to miss it. but aside from that, I think I almost had perfect attendance.

It's just that I have primarily been at the race, in a different capacity, volunteering or frankly, a lot of the years I, I rode my bike around the entire event.

Ally Brettnacher: Oh wow.

Quincy Sauer: but

Ally Brettnacher: which might be harder almost.

Quincy Sauer: Well, it's interesting. I mean, you get to know the course really well, but I have only done the full marathon.

one time I ran the full in 2016, and I've done the half marathon. Fairly consistently, post pandemic. Okay. So yes. Maybe a couple times before the pandemic. I think I've done it at least five times. 'cause they gave me

Ally Brettnacher: Oh,

Quincy Sauer: your

Ally Brettnacher: medallion?

Quincy Sauer: Yeah. They're doing this cool legacy program now. So I got, I got my medallion for five years of the half marathon.

So at least five on the half.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. That's awesome. I didn't realize you were also a former board member.

Quincy Sauer: Yes. Yeah. I got to be involved not from the very, very beginning, but from pretty close to the [00:06:00] beginning. So it was just really, rewarding to watch the organization grow and develop a lot

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: in a, in a pretty short amount of time.

so yeah, it was quite a project.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. For eight years.

Quincy Sauer: Yes. I think I started around like 2011 somewhere in, in that neighborhood. I was connected to the organization through, I'm an attorney and I had to take the bar exam. And so it's, it's funny when you basically go through all of law school and then right after you graduate, you take a separate course that teaches you everything that you need to know for the bar exam.

Oh,

Ally Brettnacher: wow.

Quincy Sauer: and so John Little was in my bar exam class and I met him, through going and learning the test more or less. and at the time he was, really involved in coordinating the elite athletes for the monument. So he was, he didn't wanna be the only attorney on the board, so he did some recruiting and he [00:07:00] recruited myself, and my good friend Lindsay, who she actually was a swimmer in at Carmel, really good swimmer.

Ally Brettnacher: Oh, wow.

Quincy Sauer: Yeah. Um, and so she and I joined the board around, I think it was either 2011, maybe officially 2012.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay.

Quincy Sauer: Or somewhere in that neighborhood.

Ally Brettnacher: And you must have rolled off right before I joined then?

Quincy Sauer: Yeah. When did you join?

Ally Brettnacher: Because I joined 2020.

Quincy Sauer: Okay. Yeah. So I think I was, luckily for me,

Ally Brettnacher: yeah,

Quincy Sauer: I got super, uh, I think I was just, fortunate I stepped down like right before the pandemic.

It didn't have, have to deal with, race cancellation or anything like that. but yeah, I just, I, so Catherine was still the. President when I stepped down. and I, so I, I was kind of ready to step down 'cause it's a, you know, it's a pretty

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: Large time commitment to, to do well. and so I was kind of ready to step down just 'cause I was so busy.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah, I

Quincy Sauer: can

Ally Brettnacher: only imagine. Um,

Quincy Sauer: but we were, I didn't step down because we were in the process of, [00:08:00] changing executive director. So when I was there, Kim was the original executive director when I was there, and then we switched to Blake Bolden, who was there for most of the time that I was on the board.

Okay. And Blake, got a really cool job with the Drake relays back in his home state of Iowa. So we, we knew we were losing him, which was, bittersweet. So we had to find somebody new. Mm-hmm. Um, so I helped in the process of finding Jed, who

Ally Brettnacher: Oh, that's so cool. 'cause he is just outstanding.

Quincy Sauer: Absolutely.

Ally Brettnacher: Yes.

Quincy Sauer: Yes. So that was really lucky that we were able to find

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: Find a, uh, solid replacement.

Ally Brettnacher: Right. Yeah, absolutely. And so you mentioned Katherine, Katherine Cobel. She will be on this podcast at some point because she is tackling 50 states doing a race in every state and she's almost done.

Quincy Sauer: Yes. it was really fun.

I kind of got to meet her towards the beginning of that journey. and I just remember like how ambitious she was. I was, you know, she knocked out. So many [00:09:00] states, like pretty quickly. and so it was really fun hearing about, her experience doing all these other races and frankly it was really helpful for the board because she had right so much knowledge of, how other races are put on.

so it was just really, it was really helpful as well.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: I don't know, I, I, I, for a while I was like, Hmm, that sounds like a fun goal, but I was always amazed that she's on a different time zone part of the time and just jump in and people who do these traveling races, that's, that's a different kind of project.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah, right. I know. I haven't done a ton there, especially when it comes to time zones. So at some point,

Quincy Sauer: well

Ally Brettnacher: you're about to do

Quincy Sauer: Florida, right?

Ally Brettnacher: Yes. At least that's the same. But yeah, Vegas is, I think as far west as I've gotten maybe. And that was weird 'cause it's a night race, so it is kind of a weird, 'cause you're different time zone.

And then it's also a night race, which is kind of a. Combo of your body's confused about why you're doing a race. but yeah, I aspire to be like Catherine. She is the reason I was on the board.

Quincy Sauer: Okay.

Ally Brettnacher: [00:10:00] And so my sister-in-law worked for her at Borshoff back in the day. Oh. And so I actually left my software career during the pandemic and and my sister-in-law was like, Hey, this organization's looking for, board members.

Oh, you know, it must have been 21, sorry. 21 is when I joined. 'cause it was at the end of the pandemic that I was like, okay, I'm not doing this anymore. And then my sister-in-law introduced me to Catherine and then. I joined the board. That's

Quincy Sauer: awesome.

Ally Brettnacher: And I've actually now rolled off the board, which I've not said publicly actually.

Good, good

Quincy Sauer: for you. It's, it's, they do make it hard to leave. I,

Ally Brettnacher: well, here's, here's the deal,

Quincy Sauer: and then you don't actually leave. Like they still No, like I remember then I became like a key volunteer, I think was the official term.

Ally Brettnacher: I'll not be, I, I've told people that are still on the board. I'm like, I'm not going anywhere because I will be doing work with the organization.

So

Quincy Sauer: yeah, you, you, you never actually leave

Ally Brettnacher: and I never, and I never want to. No. 'cause now I just, the race and the community and just all of that is so near and dear to my heart. I had no idea as a runner. Really what it took to put on a race. I still really don't because I'm not [00:11:00] in completely in the weeds, but it gave me an appreciation for what people do to make these races happen.

Quincy Sauer: Absolutely.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: And part of my job, like really early on, on the board, well actually my, my, the original thing that I did on, on the board was, is kind of funny. I worked with, Kelly, and she and I were the entertainment coordinators on the course.

Ally Brettnacher: Oh,

Quincy Sauer: that's

Ally Brettnacher: fun.

Quincy Sauer: Which I had no idea was even like a thing.

Yeah. But, you know, there's 26 miles, and our job was basically to make it more fun and more entertaining for the runners. So you, you're picking bands or DJs or frankly, anybody who can make it Interesting. So it's usually early in the morning. Yeah. And often pretty chilly for, you know, playing guitar,

Ally Brettnacher: right?

Yeah. Outside and for an extended period of time.

Quincy Sauer: For sure. And the other fun part of that is we had to find, hosts, so like, basically houses, people who live on the course Yep. Who are willing to have a band or businesses or [00:12:00] whatever.

Ally Brettnacher: Yes. Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: Dropping off extension cords, all, all kinds of, you know, like little mini things.

but yeah. And then that turned into, I, I really helps like manage the relationship with, Don Carr, who did a lot of the race director work for the organization.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: But you just start to realize all these different pieces that go into it,

Ally Brettnacher: right? Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: It's complicated.

Ally Brettnacher: It's a lot. It's a lot. And so then you also realize, okay, when you go to.

Complain about something or you think about something, you, you understand why things are the way they are. Um, absolutely. And it makes a lot more sense when you're like, oh, when you're looking at it from the race side of things. So before we leave the topic of monumental and the board, which I'm sure we'll still talk about, I want to hear about.

When you were working on the board when Hurricane Sandy hit New York and then we had an influx of people. I don't know that. I've heard many stories about that.

Quincy Sauer: Well, it was a while ago.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: but the, you know, I mean, I guess, and this is all pre pandemic story, so, uh, you know, the, the New York Marathon, wasn't canceled very many [00:13:00] times.

but Superstorm Sandy, was pretty bad. That was back, I think it was 2012. It was pretty early when. Yeah. 'cause I, I ran my first marathon, which was Chicago in 2012. I'm pretty sure it was the same year. and so traditionally, when the monumental was the first weekend in. November, you know, we obviously had to change it up every now and then.

Mm-hmm. Depending upon usually the FFA convent convention when that is. but usually it's the first weekend in November and so it usually, the monumental was the Saturday of that weekend and the New York Marathon is a Sunday of that same weekend. And so the year, that the really bad storm was in New York, they canceled the marathon slightly in advance.

So like the runners did have a little notice that it was canceled. Mm-hmm. And so we had an outrageous amount of people that, you know, they've trained for this marathon. Yes. You want to show off your training right. And run your race and all of a sudden it's canceled. So we had a ton of last minute entries that year.

And I just [00:14:00] remember, trying to manage it. One of the, I don't know what, why this story is, is always in my head, but this is before you could do Amazon, like one hour delivery or Right.

Ally Brettnacher: 2000. That makes sense, right?

Quincy Sauer: It's like, now it doesn't sound that hard, but basically what happened is we, did not have enough safety pins,

Ally Brettnacher: which is so crazy to think about that you're like, wow, okay.

Quincy Sauer: Really small thing. I mean, personally, I've always been like, well, why can't we just have like sticker numbers or something? Why do we need the safety pins? Yeah. But we still use safety pins. and so I just remember originally driving around to like office. Office stores. Yeah. Office Depot, office Max, whatever was Kinko's, whatever was at the time, FedEx store.

and they don't actually have safety pins.

Ally Brettnacher: That's crazy. That's my first thought where I

Quincy Sauer: would go, no, when I tried, you know, obviously like Target, Walmart, those kinds of stores, but, so I actually called my older brother in kind of a panic. I'm like, I, we just need safety. Where do I get these?

And I'll give him credit. He's the one that was like, uh, Quincy, you should just go to all the dry [00:15:00] cleaners in town. And so I, I would've never, I mean, frankly these days I don't do a whole lot of dry cleaning. Back then, I did more of it. So I actually went to, there's more dry cleaners downtown than you realize.

I went to all of the dry cleaners downtown, and I'll say they were so generous and kind, and they gave us all the boxes of safety bins that they had. Essentially,

Ally Brettnacher: that's, I mean, that is so nice and so crazy to think about you running around Just pick it up as many boxes as you can get.

Quincy Sauer: Yeah. In any event. So now when I do races, I try to like always make sure and only take four safety effects. You're like, because I know sometimes people just reach it and like, right. Take a big handful. You know,

Ally Brettnacher: another thing you realize when you're on the race side, you're like, why? Why are you doing that?

Quincy Sauer: Like,

Ally Brettnacher: why do you need a handful of safety fence?

Quincy Sauer: And frankly, I mean, I could probably keep my safety pins and reuse them. I

Ally Brettnacher: probably should be taking none actually. I actually, in my office, I, I save my race bibs because I put 'em in frame, whatever. So I have a ton of safety pins from that 'cause I'll take 'em off and then leave the pins on.

I don't know [00:16:00] why. And then so recently I took 'em all off. So I have more safety pins than I will ever need.

Quincy Sauer: See. Yeah, there you go.

Ally Brettnacher: So I'm

Quincy Sauer: good. Luckily it's easier, I mean I just think with the quick delivery we're used to now, I think that probably

Ally Brettnacher: would

probably

Quincy Sauer: be, be easier

Ally Brettnacher: to solve. Yes. It would literally never, yeah.

This point wouldn't be an issue.

Quincy Sauer: Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: But that's crazy. 'cause it had to be, I mean that thousands of people.

Quincy Sauer: It was, it was really interesting. We were honestly just kind of lucky. So at that point in time we weren't, you know, quote unquote selling out the race still. Right. I

Ally Brettnacher: was thinking about that because I'm like, well, wouldn't it?

Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: Yeah. I mean, it was such a guessing game of trying to figure out, like, you don't wanna obviously order too much stuff and incur Yeah. Expenses where you're having, you have all these shirts and medals that you know

Ally Brettnacher: Right. You can't use 'em next year.

Quincy Sauer: Nobody wants the medal from last year. , you don't wanna have too much inventory on hand.

That's not worth anything. But at the same time, you don't know, you know, are you gonna have all these last minute people? So, you know, now it's, the races grown a lot. It's a lot more popular, so. I don't think something like that will probably happen. [00:17:00] 'cause now it sells out in advance.

Ally Brettnacher: Yes.

Quincy Sauer: But back in 2012, uh, we, we did have a lot of last minute entries.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. It's so crazy. But also really nice that that was an option for people there 'cause Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: Yes. People were so, and I, I frankly think that, you know, a ton of different elements that help grow the race, but I, I do think getting more of a national presence, just having more people run the race from other states.

Ally Brettnacher: Right. Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: You know, they have a good experience. They go tell their run club or their friends.

Ally Brettnacher: Right.

Quincy Sauer: We get more people.

Ally Brettnacher: Exactly. Well, and people who have never been to Indiana come to Indianapolis and run that race and they're like, I had no idea. That's my favorite.

Quincy Sauer: Yeah. It's cold and flat

Ally Brettnacher: usually.

Quincy Sauer: Yes.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Well, always

Quincy Sauer: flat, but

Ally Brettnacher: sometimes cold. Usually cold. Yeah. So, oh, that's, I love that story. Thanks for sharing that. That's wild to me.

Quincy Sauer: Yeah, it was, it, I, it's just, it's funny, you just remember like the heat of the moment where I was like, panicked over safety, fix

Ally Brettnacher: that. And your brother, wow, what a smart idea.

I, yeah. [00:18:00] Would've never thought of that. So, okay, now let's go back a little ways to 2006.

Quincy Sauer: Okay.

Ally Brettnacher: I love the story of your first half marathon where your mom signed you up. So tell, tell that story. I love

Quincy Sauer: it. I actually talked to her, I talked to her recently to, this is like a while ago. So, you know, like, you kind of like remember things where I was like, maybe I should double check with her and it's accurate.

So essentially what happened, I was in law school at the time, and I went to law school. at the time it was called. IU Indianapolis. They hadn't received the donation from McKinney yet. Now it's called IU McKinney. but basically the law school that's downtown. And it's interesting because the law school is basically the finish line of the mini marathon.

So, my mother, had run the race many, many times before. and so I guess this would've been the end of my, or really my second year of law school. Law school is basically three years. a boy broke up with me

and

it was, you know, [00:19:00] I, I've always liked, the local author, John Green always says he wrote young adult books because, you know, when you're younger, your emotions are just so much more intense 'cause you're feeling them for the first time.

And frankly, this was like really like the first time that a boy really broke up with me. I remember he wanted to get married and. I'm trying to think how old I was in my early twenties, 22, something like that. And I was like, I can't see myself getting married to anybody. Like I, I want to become a lawyer and I don't know what else I wanna do, but I don't wanna get married right now.

So he broke up with me and I was devastated.

Ally Brettnacher: Wow.

Quincy Sauer: Um, and my mother, she just signed me up for the mini marathon and she didn't ask me if I wanted to do it. That's the best.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah,

Quincy Sauer: no,

Ally Brettnacher: this is great.

Quincy Sauer: She just signed me up for it, um, and let me know that I was registered and the date of the race. and that is the first year I ran the mini marathon.

Ally Brettnacher: So crazy. Which now 20, you've run 20 times.

Quincy Sauer: Yes. I've had perfect attendance since [00:20:00] every year that they've, like, the years that it was kind of canceled because of the pandemic. My family. It's fun. We created our own, printed out the numbers. Love it. You know, did our, did it. Took it seriously, but like on her own.

but yeah, it's, I, so I started it then, that first year I actually convinced my childhood best friend to do it with me. we have kind of, almost like an arranged friendship. we met when we were two years old, lived on the same street

Ally Brettnacher: arranged. I've never heard that arranged friendship. That's

Quincy Sauer: great.

Yeah. I got lucky. Yeah. I mean, she's amazing. And she's still one of my. Best friends. but She had an older sister and a younger sister, and I have two brothers and no sisters, so,

Ally Brettnacher: so yeah. Perfect.

Quincy Sauer: It was lovely. I got some kind of like, sisters out of it.

but anyhow, so she. Agreed. We were living together. We, she was my roommate when I was in law school, so I convinced her to do the race with me. And I remember we, we made these cotton tank tops who runs in like a cotton tank. Perfect. Yeah. We, we had cotton tank tops made that [00:21:00] said on the back of them. If found, face down, please call.

And my shirt had her phone number on it and her shirt had my phone number on it.

it.

Ally Brettnacher: That is brilliant.

Quincy Sauer: And that's what I ran the race. Then

Ally Brettnacher: how did you make the shirts? Like with Sharpie or did you like Iron on or like Puff Paint?

Quincy Sauer: No, we actually, we kind of were fancy. There was, I don't think it's there anymore.

But, um, we lived in Broder Pool and in Broder Pool there was, is it

Ally Brettnacher: Tiki Hut?

Quincy Sauer: Yes, it's still there. Is it

FLAMS - Quincy S - 2:16:26, 9: still

Ally Brettnacher: there? 'cause I've had t-shirts made there.

Quincy Sauer: Okay. See the tiki hut? Yes, yes, yes.

Ally Brettnacher: Tiki Hut. Shout out.

Quincy Sauer: We, we had, um, coozies, I dunno if that's the right word for that. Yes. But Coozies made there for like a party we had and we decided to go there and have these shirts space.

Ally Brettnacher: That's amazing. That's perfect. Yeah. Oh my gosh.

Quincy Sauer: Yeah. I want, I, there's a chance I may still have that tank top. It definitely is not, there's nothing sport cut about it. Like it was a weird thing to run in.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. I mean, looking back at pictures, my first Indie mini was 2007.

Quincy Sauer: Oh.

Ally Brettnacher: And yeah, so I wore, I mean, cotton t-shirts, like, I mean, [00:22:00] who knows?

I mean, just what you wore in the early two thousands.

Quincy Sauer: Did you, did you wear a watch?

Ally Brettnacher: Probably not,

Quincy Sauer: because I, I know I ran without a watch. I don't, I didn't even have like a basic watch.

Ally Brettnacher: You know? I wonder when I first started running with a GPS watch, 'cause I don't even know if I would run with like a, I don't know if I ever owned a watch that was not GPS, like a digital watch.

Quincy Sauer: Oh. I definitely had the one that you. The Iron Man. Not sorry, not Iron Man. It's like the, uh, like Casio maybe

Ally Brettnacher: it's just

Quincy Sauer: a very basic

Ally Brettnacher: watch. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. That has

Quincy Sauer: a stopwatch feature. Nott

Ally Brettnacher: not in a GPS. I don't know. I don't know, but I'll have to, I should look at the pictures. 'cause I, I doubt I had any kind of watch on, 'cause I just was, I don't know, had no idea what I was doing.

That's so funny. That shirts.

Quincy Sauer: Yes, but the goal wasn't, to like run a certain time. The goal was to make it from point A to point B and still be alive.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. And did your, I'm assuming your mom also ran that year.

Quincy Sauer: Yes. So she, I talked to her about this. So this year is gonna be the 50th running of the mini marathon.

she hasn't had perfect attendance. She hasn't done it every single year, but she's done it almost every year, definitely over [00:23:00] 40,

Ally Brettnacher: which is crazy.

Quincy Sauer: and this is fun 'cause she told me the stories, you know, they, they used to have the mini on a Friday, right? And it started close to the circle and you basically would run out to the track and then you'd like have to get a ride, you know, obviously before Uber.

Um, so it was a kind of a different event. And so she did it a lot of times on the Friday. and I think eventually she got my older brother into it before, I think he did his first one. He graduated from IU from college and ran the mini the same day.

Ally Brettnacher: oh

Quincy Sauer: yes. So, and they actually, my mom and my brother ran it together, or my older brother.

so I did not, maybe when my mom signed me up, she was assuming that I would run with her, but I did not run with her. But she, I don't know, she, I wonder if she beat me that year. 'cause she, She's still really good for her age group, but now she's in her seventies

Ally Brettnacher: just yeah.

Amazing goals.

Quincy Sauer: Yes, exactly. Yeah. So, and she signed up, she's gonna run it again this year.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Did you see the medal?

Quincy Sauer: Oh, I have

Ally Brettnacher: looked at the medal yet. They just, I think yesterday they just showed a picture of it [00:24:00] and it's really, it's really cool.

Quincy Sauer: Oh,

Ally Brettnacher: I'm excited. So I'm excited. I'm not really a metal girl, but the mini metals.

I have so many of them. What do you, so this will stand out. I actually have my, a indie mini metal rack that I made. Oh, that has the logo.

Quincy Sauer: Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: And then all my indie metals or indie mini metals are on there.

Quincy Sauer: Wow.

Ally Brettnacher: So I don't have as quite as many as you, but I just about, I am 18. This will be my 18th.

Quincy Sauer: You know, I, I, I get mine out, once a year on the day, on the day of the race.

We, most of my family runs the race and then we always have this silly, it's usually the same day as the Kentucky Derby. So we have this like silly Kentucky Derby event. you know, that evolves. Usually pizza, actually. Perfect pizza and Mitchell's a weird combination. Yeah. Just kind of lazy. and so it's fun to pull out.

We kind of pull out the medals and like laugh at them. 'cause it used to be a lot smaller. They've gotten a lot bigger.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Like one of the first, like the first one I think I have was a tiny little race car. That's like probably just barely bigger than a couple quarters. Yep. I don't know. [00:25:00] Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: But I will say they've been fairly consistent on the cool like checkered flag.

Ally Brettnacher: Yes.

Quincy Sauer: Ribbon that's attached.

Ally Brettnacher: Yes. This year it has like a, well, I didn't see the whole thing, but it looked like it has like a gold line in between, but it's still checkered, but it's a little different.

Quincy Sauer: Okay.

Ally Brettnacher: So I was like, okay, mixing it up a little.

Quincy Sauer: I'll have to take a

Ally Brettnacher: take.

FLAMS - Quincy S - 2:16:26, 9: Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: It's early this year too. I think it's May 2nd, so earlier in May, which is exciting.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. It'll be fun. Well, wow. Do you have any advice for people listening who might be doing it for the first time?

Quincy Sauer: Uh, well, I just, I think running has just evolved. I know when I did it again, my goal was just to complete it, so, and I, I think, you know, if you are doing it for the first time, I think that's a reasonable goal.

I don't

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah, true.

Quincy Sauer: I don't think you have to like, go for, you know, and, and clearly you're gonna get a personal best, because you haven't done it before. Right. So that's exciting. So I think, and there's just so many different ways to do the mini, so I, I play a lot of tennis these days and, one of the gals that I played [00:26:00] tennis with, she ran the mini last year.

Um, and she sent me a lot of like, the videos from her experience and, she stopped and like took videos of the. You know, the people on the course enter providing entertainment and, you know, took pictures of people in costumes and she like really had a fan fun experience. Yes. And just absolutely loved it, you know, versus I just kind of, ran the whole thing and then like, talked to people when I was done.

Ally Brettnacher: Yes.

Quincy Sauer: Yeah. Um, so there's just, there's so many different ways to do it. So I think you just have to figure out, I mean, I think if you wanna set a time goal, I mean, I think that's fine, but I think it's fine just to like do it and enjoy it, you know? And then if you wanna get addicted to it and keep doing it year after year, then you, you know, then it's easier to maybe like, you know, set a more specific goal.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Yeah. Are you a Kiss the Bricks girl?

Quincy Sauer: I've actually never kissed the bricks before.

Ally Brettnacher: I've only done it one time.

Quincy Sauer: I,

I do love, there's always photographers there, which is like kind of silly, [00:27:00] but I do love being a spectacle and putting my arms like in the air. Oh,

Ally Brettnacher: totally. Yeah, absolutely.

Quincy Sauer: You know, acting like I just, I don't know, 1 9500 or something.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah, yeah.

Quincy Sauer: But I've never actually, I've never stopped to kiss the bricks. I'm not sure why I get, I like get in the groove running and

Ally Brettnacher: I don't like, yeah. I don't like to stop.

Quincy Sauer: Yeah. And once you stop it's just so much harder to like get that rhythm back. So I don't, I I

Ally Brettnacher: agree with

Quincy Sauer: that. Stay in the rhythm with,

Ally Brettnacher: yeah, I ran, that year I ran with two girlfriends.

You know, we didn't really have a time goal. Um, one of 'em, I think it was the first and maybe like the only time she ever did it. So we were, you know, they wanted to do it. So I, okay, I've never done it before, so let's do it. So there, you know.

Quincy Sauer: So now are you always gonna do it?

Ally Brettnacher: No, I haven't done it since.

That was, I don't know how long ago. Probably. Seven or eight years ago, so, oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. So now I, I am like, nope. Usually I'm not, I like to keep moving. Like you. Yes, absolutely. 'cause it's the rhythm thing. You, you stop, it's just, then you have to get the momentum again. It's just, I don't like to stop.

Quincy Sauer: Yeah. And sometimes, I mean, sometimes the track is quite toasty.

Ally Brettnacher: Also true. Just get me out of there.

Quincy Sauer: Yes.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. People who've never done it [00:28:00] before, I always tell 'em, the speedway, when you watch it on tv, like the cars obviously go around that very quickly. And when you run it, it's two and a half miles.

It takes some time. You spend some time there. So

Quincy Sauer: yes,

Ally Brettnacher: just get ready to settle in and enjoy it because it's really cool. But it's also, yeah, it gets really hot and can be hard.

Quincy Sauer: I think if you haven't done it before, what you don't realize is there's so many, there's usually, depending on the weather, so many spectators, especially lining is it Main Street and Speedway now?

Yes.

Ally Brettnacher: Now it's, that's such a great spot

Quincy Sauer: now. Yeah. So a really good energy spot like going. Into the track, and then when you get to, you like run down and up this hill to get into the track. That's always one of my favorite parts of the course. Mm-hmm. Everyone really like yells, right? I, I don't know why, but it's kinda you.

Yeah. The echos echo. Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: Mm-hmm.

Quincy Sauer: So you get, you first get into the track and there's usually a water stop, like I always try to take water or whatever they're offering right after you enter the track and then you have, what, two and a half miles, you pass a lot of mile marker signs on the track. But [00:29:00] what people don't realize is that.

The general public isn't just allowed to like, go in and cheer for you Right. Inside of the loop. So it's usually, I think they've had a lot of schools come and Right. you know, maybe have their cheer team or whoever in inside the track. But aside from that, it's, you know, it's kind of lonely.

Ally Brettnacher: Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Well now they've added the golden mile. Oh, that true. To honor. Yeah. To honor, you know, fallen heroes.

Quincy Sauer: That's awesome. That's the Golden Mile is like, I feel like I've got like teary eyed

Ally Brettnacher: every time.

Quincy Sauer: Yes.

Ally Brettnacher: Because you see all the families are there with the picture of their loved one. It just gives you such an appreciation for

Quincy Sauer: Yes.

Ally Brettnacher: What you're doing. Exactly. It's like, wow.

Quincy Sauer: It's, it's intense. And it also, like, it makes the temporary pain that you're in seem like

Ally Brettnacher: Exactly.

Quincy Sauer: Really kind of true.

Ally Brettnacher: Exactly. This is nothing. Just keep, yeah. Keep moving.

Quincy Sauer: Yeah. I forgot about the Yeah. 'cause they didn't originally have the gold. No. The Gold Mile is, yes.

Ally Brettnacher: It's somewhat, it's probably been around for a handful of years now, but it is somewhat new.

Quincy Sauer: Yeah. But then once you get out of the track, getting back downtown. Oh, that part I think is brutal. It's

Ally Brettnacher: such, and it's like usually for me, such a [00:30:00] blur. Yes. Because I'm just kind of, you kind of, after mile nine, you're like kind of, you're feeling it, you're in the zone.

It can be if it's a hot day, usually they have like, I don't know, hoses with like the

Quincy Sauer: Yes.

Ally Brettnacher: Mist coming out now. Those are great if you wanna cool down, which is good. But yeah, it's a long, long way back.

Quincy Sauer: I think as soon as you can see the river again, then mentally I'm like, okay,

Ally Brettnacher: okay.

Quincy Sauer: I'm gonna make it.

You

Ally Brettnacher: made it.

Quincy Sauer: But the tricky thing is, is that that final stretch, so on New York Street, it's not flat. It, it's not, I mean it's not like a huge hill, but the subtle hill at mile. 12 or almost 13. Yeah. Is you feel it in your legs.

Ally Brettnacher: You do. You do. And you're just ready to go down the other side of the bridge, like, please get me.

Quincy Sauer: Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: Get me done.

Quincy Sauer: And that's where I wish I didn't know campus so well because I'm, I always look up at the buildings and I'm like, okay, like I just have to get my body to the law school, which I'm really familiar with.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: but then I look around and I'm like, oh, that's not the law school. I'm not there yet.

Ally Brettnacher: Exactly. So what [00:31:00] made you wanna run your first marathon,

Quincy Sauer: frankly? it was being on the board of the monumental Okay. So I, when I was asked to be on the board, I felt kind of phony because I was like, how can I be on the board of an organization that puts on a marathon and I have never run a marathon?

This feels. Weird.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: and at first I like, I kind of was thinking I wasn't really up for it because of that, but then they explained to me essentially what they needed assistance with, and I was like, okay, I think I, I think I might have something to contribute here. So, but frankly it was just so inspirational.

I mean, so I was at the finish line of the monumental, before I signed up for my first marathon. I think just watching people, oh, I mean, even the, I get really emotional at the start line and the finish line really? The whole event. Yeah. I mean, it's just, it's so inspiring, just watching. I mean, you just think everybody has.

Their story. I don't know. It makes me [00:32:00] more appreciate watching, even like the Winter Olympics right now. Absolutely. You know, you just, this is like the day to shine, but every step that it took to like get to this moment in time mm-hmm. You know, that's what you really start to appreciate. So I think just watching people at the start and finish, I was like, you know, I really, I really need to do one of these.

I didn't, I wanted to run the monumental, but at the time I was so intimately involved with kind of doing things on the event day. Yeah. That I didn't wanna run that race. so instead I, signed up tour the Chicago Marathon. Now the funny thing is, I, my, this was in 2012. so like you didn't have to enter a lottery.

Ally Brettnacher: Right. I know. I did it before the lottery too.

Quincy Sauer: Yeah. You didn't, it was so. Like, I, I don't, I didn't like sign up exactly when the entry went live. It's

Ally Brettnacher: wild. Wild. It's so crazy to think about that now.

Quincy Sauer: It wasn't hard to get into, I mean, like, you know,

Ally Brettnacher: you just signed up.

Quincy Sauer: Yeah. so that was, and that, and that was similar to my first mini, I mean, I just had no idea if I was, if my body was gonna make [00:33:00] it from point A to point B.

Yeah. And I remember the really challenging thing about that. So that was on a Sunday. and I I had like to, I don't say I had to work a lot more, but I was a lot less experienced in my career at that point in time. And so I remember having to work the next day and go to court and I was like, oh, this is just brutal.

Ally Brettnacher: Mm. Yeah. Yeah. How did you train.

Quincy Sauer: So good question. So, for that particular marathon, I trained pretty much exclusively with indie runners.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay.

Quincy Sauer: Um, and so the nice thing about the Chicago Marathon that I did in 2012 is again, I convinced my childhood best friend to do it. Oh, what a great

Ally Brettnacher: friend.

Quincy Sauer: I also convinced my, like, it's weird ranking your friends, but maybe my like closest friend from law school.

we had lived together so, you know, get a little closer when you lived together. but so my childhood best friend and my closest friend from law school, I had connected the two of them, but I don't know if like, [00:34:00] they didn't like do things without me. Right. You know? Yeah. So it ended up working out really well because we all trained with indie runners and frankly, both my childhood best friend and my best friend from law school were.

Better runners than I am. So sometimes I would like lag behind and the two of them would have to run together. Oh yeah. So then they became like really close, I think through that, which was really great. Best for me. That's the best. Yes. Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: You're like, let's, I wanna be with both of you all the time.

Quincy Sauer: So, yeah.

Is that way. I didn't have to like plan stuff with like one or the other. I was like, oh, let's all just hang out or, you know, so that, that was really fun. but I, that's when I kind of developed this routine where I would have like a really chill Friday night. cause the indie runners. I think they're still doing this, but at the time they would do their really long runs on Saturday mornings.

Ally Brettnacher: I think that's still, I think that's still the case.

Quincy Sauer: It was either at seven 30 or eight, depending upon like what time of year it was, when the sunrise was. Yeah. so yeah, so and conveniently, I would just, I lived right by the start, so I would [00:35:00] just get up and walk to the start of the run and run with, you know, it was mostly the same people.

So I met a lot of awesome people through that. Now the funny thing is, is so they also had runs, you know, Tuesdays, they were running from Hinkle Fieldhouse, I think Thursdays as well. Some of them are from local running stores, but I did do most of my running with them. I wasn't really good at like, running by myself.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah, it's hard.

Quincy Sauer: Yeah. So I, I I'm not sure my training was that Great.

Ally Brettnacher: Well, so I mean, getting, yeah. Checking off the long runs is. Is the hardest part really, at least from my, my viewpoint, it's like you gotta just at least get that in. Yeah. You get the time on your feet and the miles, you can figure it out.

Quincy Sauer: Well I remember like when I did my first one thinking how bizarre it was. How like I would go run the mini marathon and like people would like celebrate, oh, you ran the mini. I feel so good about myself. But then when you like train for a marathon, you run so many half marathons. [00:36:00] It is. And further, you know,

Ally Brettnacher: and a half marathon day is a short

Quincy Sauer: Yes.

Ally Brettnacher: Run.

Quincy Sauer: Yeah. So it got to the point where I had done, I don't know, like a handful of short, these sprint triathlons out at Eagle Creek Park or

Ally Brettnacher: North. I did one of those back in the day. Yeah, it's the only, only sprint I've ever done though. You've since done more triathlons, which we need to talk about.

Quincy Sauer: Well, but I, it was kind of funny, like thinking like, well, I'm not gonna sign up for this sprint triathlon that I would normally do because that's like not far enough, you know, like, I need to, I need to go do my, like long run and like go further instead of that.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: but it, you know, as you know, like once you just do, the coolest part about running a marathon is it just shifts your perspective for, because then. Anytime in the rest of your life that you run a half marathon. When you cross the finish line, you're like, oh, I'm actually done. Like, I don't have to go that again.

Do that again.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. I always tell people too, people who have never run a marathon always are like, well, oh my gosh, I get to the end at half marathon. I could never imagine doing that again. [00:37:00] It's like, well, you train in a way that that's not how it'll feel. if you train the right way.

Quincy Sauer: Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: But yeah, at the end of a half marathon, you don't wanna go another 13.1 usually.

So,

Quincy Sauer: yeah. And that, that's really what had kept me from signing up for one before I was on the board, is just thinking like, well, I, I know that how hard that last mile of the mini, which is really like the only half marathon I run at that point in time is, and like, I feel like I've trained and I, I barely feel alive on that last mile of mini, like, how,

Ally Brettnacher: how do people actually run a full marathon?

Like, I don't think that's possible for me. Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: but the board, it's, and it was more than the board. You just start meeting like. If, you know, you get involved in the entire running community and realize Yeah. Like, okay, like there's people that know a lot about this and

Ally Brettnacher: mm-hmm.

Quincy Sauer: You can put together a plan and actually achieve it.

And, and then, then, then it gets very addicting

Ally Brettnacher: and then you're like, what else can I do?

Quincy Sauer: Exactly.

Ally Brettnacher: So at what point did you find triathlon? You mentioned the [00:38:00] sprints. Did you kind of get into those as you were running a little bit or?

Quincy Sauer: Yeah, so I, good question. I, I was a swimmer growing up, which is, is kind of funny 'cause I was like a.

Okay, swimmer. I, I never actually swam year round in my entire life, which most of the real swimmers, you know, would swim year round. I would, I did other sports. So like during swim season, I would like only do swimming.

Ally Brettnacher: are you from, what part of

Quincy Sauer: I went to Pike High School. Okay. Yes. Pike won state and basketball my sophomore year.

Ally Brettnacher: Oh, that's fun.

Quincy Sauer: So it was really fun. Yeah. We were a pretty good basketball school, not a swimming school. but we did, I was a freestyle sprinter, so it was kind of useful. So we, we had a couple decent swimmers. We'd get to go, swim against Carmel in the state meet, and they would obviously smoke us. Um, but so I, I, I always, I don't know, I always liked swimming.

I just, I feel like it was before like, I don't know, mental health and meditation were kind of. Talked about, it was kind of my way of just [00:39:00] like, okay, like letting everything filter through my mind. You're just swimming back and forth. Obviously you can't talk. Yeah. so I always like swimming and I have kind of long, lengthy arms, so I was like decent at it.

Um, so I was trying to find a way to, get a little bit of swimming back in my life. and so I think when I first graduated from law school, a a little shortly after that, I got my first ever road bike that was like very, very basic. and I just did like a handful of like shorter, like really short triathlons.

but I was not, like, I didn't really have any idea what I was doing.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: And then I don't, and then I kind of got really into running and I basically forgot about my bike. and I didn't really get back into cycling until April of 2020. Okay. So I took a really long time. It's,

Ally Brettnacher: yeah, that's,

Quincy Sauer: I took a, and when I first got into cycling, it was like fake cycling.

Like, I just didn't know what I was doing. Right. I think it's kind of an intimidating, you know, running, not that running's easy to get [00:40:00] into, but like, at least running, you need a pair of shoes.

Ally Brettnacher: Right. You don't even need a watch if, you know,

Quincy Sauer: if

Ally Brettnacher: you,

Quincy Sauer: yeah. I mean,

Ally Brettnacher: just wanna run around. But yeah,

Quincy Sauer: basically the shoes are the most important piece.

you know, and you can at least like, attempt to start cycling's a little more challenging. It's just like more equipment involved. so I didn't really get back into it until I was like, I need to set a new goal. I, I toyed around with doing another marathon. I think the challenging part about a marathon is like, you, it almost requires you to be a specialist.

You know, like you, it just, it's a lot of, it's a lot of time running.

Ally Brettnacher: Mm-hmm.

Quincy Sauer: and I just, I like variety. I like to do lots of things. Yeah. So I was like, you know, I think I just wanna set a goal that. Involves running, but like maybe running and something else. And I was really looking into events that involve running and swimming, because those are the two I feel.

Okay. Yeah. I didn't really need the bike. and there's, there's a handful of events that, you know, do running and swimming. but there's a [00:41:00] lot more events that do running, swimming, and biking. So I was like, okay, I'll finally figure out the cycl, well let me attempt to figure out the cycling piece.

Yeah. so yeah, so in April of 2024, I got a road bike that was not, still, still very basic, but like a slightly nicer. and I started writing with this program called the Divas. Which is awesome. I got so lucky. So the, that 2024 was the second year for the divas. Okay. They started in 2023.

Ally Brettnacher: And is that an Indiana thing or is it like a broader thing?

Quincy Sauer: It's kind of a cool story. So it started, the Divas started in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Okay. Which was kind of random.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: And for some, I'm basically like outside of the cycling world, but when you grow up in Indiana, there's a lot of people I've realized that little five, I didn't go to iu. Oh

Ally Brettnacher: right. Yeah. But

Quincy Sauer: little five is like a really big deal at iu.

it's a cycling race and I. [00:42:00] People go to iu, like not knowing anything about cycling or being involved in cycling and because of little five they like get into cycling. Mm-hmm. Or at least I've now met a lot of ladies that that's how that was their Right. How

Ally Brettnacher: they got into it. Yeah. Meanwhile, I was just like partying and never went to race during little five.

Quincy Sauer: Yeah. I, my exercise in, in college was certainly minimal.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah, yeah.

Quincy Sauer: Like walking to class if that counts. But, so in any event, so, for Indiana being so flat, it's amazing, there's like pretty awesome cycling community. And so what happened is that this Tulsa group, they were trying to solve a problem.

And the problem is, is that cycling is like predominantly like a male sport. it's the same actually in triathlon it's similar, it's there, there's just a lot more gentlemen that do it than ladies. And so they're trying to find a way. To introduce more ladies to the sport. Yeah. and so Tulsa, they have a really big bike race there.

I've never been to it. Oh. But it's, apparently it's a crit race and it's like a huge race on the circuit. [00:43:00] A whole community gets into it. so there, through that race, they started this group called The Divas, which was a group to get women into cycling. So there is a gal in town here, a local gal, named Jennifer.

and she basically like approached them and was like, Hey, we'd like to do something similar in Indianapolis, or it's frankly like the central Indiana. Yeah. you know, like, would you mind kind of like giving us some, some pointers for getting started And then

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Quincy Sauer: . you know, like, would you mind kind of like giving us some, some pointers for getting started? And then they were so helpful. apparently they were just like.

use our name, use, , use kind of all of our stuff. So

Ally Brettnacher: that's

Quincy Sauer: so

Ally Brettnacher: nice. So

Quincy Sauer: Indianapolis, or really central Indiana is the second, chapter of divas. And so, [00:45:00] so the organization, sorry, I say chapter, they're not related divas is actually underneath a nonprofit in town that like is related to cycling.

okay. But anyhow, so Divas, divas is just awesome. It's, and you do have to have a bike, but the thing is, if you don't have a bike, there's enough women in this group that.

Ally Brettnacher: Somebody

Quincy Sauer: will have something to bike, they'll have their old bike or, right. It's actually really on the secondary market, you can get a bike.

Like it's very affordable and there's, there's plenty of bikes to be had. but yeah, I essentially get a bike. So I had like no clue what I was doing and show up at this first ride, they, the way it's set up is every Thursday night there's a bike ride and it's, it's, there's, if you're like, oh wait, can, so the guys have a ride that's in the, basically across the street.

Oh, okay. And the women that are really fast ride with the guys, but the divas ride is just all ladies and there's six different, you know, kind of like running groups have their different. Pace groups. Pace.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: So the cycling group has, and like I had no idea like what PACE group I belonged in because [00:46:00]

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

How do they do it? Like miles an hour?

Quincy Sauer: Yeah. I was like, I have no clue. Like all I knew how to do is like cruise down the mona.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: And like I go like eight, maybe 10 miles an hour

Ally Brettnacher: max. Yeah. How do you even know how fast I guess you, you know, depending on the bike you have or equipment you have

Quincy Sauer: is

Ally Brettnacher: how you find out.

Quincy Sauer: And so you, and you learn how to like ride in a group, which I, I forget I had to go through all this in running. I mean it's silly, but like you kind of learn how to run in a group, which is not that complicated. Obviously don't run into people. Right. But there's some etiquette involved in like calling out.

Potholes or whatever it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you kinda learn how to ride in a group, and then eventually figure out like what pace is is good for you. But I just remember ask, like, I didn't know how to, we have to, you know, stop and obey, stop signs and all that stuff. And I just remember asking people like, well, which foot do you unclip your right foot or your left foot?

And most of the people are like, I don't, I haven't thought about that in so long. I just do it, you know? Yeah. I'm like, but I'm figuring out you don't have any muscle memory. Like, I'm figuring all this out for the first time. but in any event, that was the second [00:47:00] year for the program. We had I think, like 200 ladies

Ally Brettnacher: at

Quincy Sauer: that.

Ally Brettnacher: Now does is divas an acronym? Side note, but

Quincy Sauer: no. Okay. Just wonder. It's just like,

Ally Brettnacher: because I was

Quincy Sauer: like, not, how does that

Ally Brettnacher: stand for anything bike or cycle related? Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: I was just, no, it's just a cool group of ladies who, uh, like to ride bikes.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah, I like it.

Quincy Sauer: But it's, it's just the most like inclusive group too.

It's, there is, so the slowest group, they basically ride only ride on trails. So it is that we meet kind of on like, the fringe of Carmel. It's like close to 106 and, uh, Michigan Road. Okay. There's a, there's a bike store there. We really meet, like, in the parking lot. but so the, group that goes, you know, they ride on like trails and then you keep kind of as you progress or if you wanna ride faster, you go a little further.

And then there's the one group there. All the groups are named after. I don't know, artists. And so the fastest, uh, group is called JLo. Second fastest is Madonna. That's fun. but the JLo group, which is the fastest group, [00:48:00] they are like really fast. A lot of them are former bike racers.

Ally Brettnacher: Wow. That's so fun. I had no idea that existed.

Quincy Sauer: Yeah. I don't think a lot of people know about, I just knew about it through, one of my good friends from law school was like kind of integral in helping get the organization like up and running, but it's becoming a pretty well-oiled machine. It's so the season will kick off in April? Well, I think they're having their, they had this like kickoff event, in early March, but the actual season will start in April.

So in any event, that's what allowed me to learn how to like, actually ride a bike. Ride a bike, yeah. Like more than just, you know, cruising and stopping a brewery.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Well, I mean, sure. Somebody, somebody listening. Might be considering getting into triathlons. It's such a great thing to know about.

Quincy Sauer: Yeah.

'cause I think that there's a lot of runners, I think, that are kind of like curious about the triathlon world. Yeah. But there's like one, it's either the swim or the bike. Sometimes both. That's intimidating.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. For me it's a swim. I'm a horrible swimmer.

Quincy Sauer: Yeah. I think a lot of people are intimidated by the swim.

The nice thing about like most of the [00:49:00] triathlons, this swim is so short compared to the other events that it. Doesn't if IFT really, I dunno, it sounds so long. You're good. So it like, doesn't really matter because this one's just really short, you know? but you do have, you, you do have to know how to ride a bike.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah, yeah. And fix a bike potentially.

Quincy Sauer: Oh yeah. So I've attended, they, they do these like fix flat clinics where you learn how to, that's

Ally Brettnacher: nice.

Quincy Sauer: Fix a flat tire.

Ally Brettnacher: Right.

Quincy Sauer: I've attended at least three of those and I've never been tested. Like I've never actually had to do it on my own. But I will say, so each group of the divas has a ride leader.

Ally Brettnacher: Mm-hmm.

Quincy Sauer: And I think part of being the ride leader is you like, for sure have to know how to do it.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: And they do. Like I've seen them fix flies.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Yeah. Yep.

Quincy Sauer: I mean, now I like usually have my phone with me.

Ally Brettnacher: Right. Yeah. So you could like call someone or Google it.

Quincy Sauer: Yeah. I, I, I, I think if I were in like a dire situation, like I could figure it out.

Yeah. But I, I'm not that good. I'm not that good of a bike mechanic.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Okay. [00:50:00] This is a side note, but it, it's kind of relevant 'cause it's, what makes me think of is scuba diving. I'm certified, fully certified. I've actually been certified twice. But if you asked me to set up my equipment, I would. Oh really?

I would not know how to do it.

Quincy Sauer: Well, but is that just 'cause it's been a while?

Ally Brettnacher: Well, partially, but also like somebody else would always do it. Oh. So you know, you're with a dive group and they like set it all up and so you're just. Since I'm not being forced to do it or practice it.

Quincy Sauer: Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: I don't have that, you know, muscle memory of like knowing how to do it

Quincy Sauer: well.

No, that makes sense. I, I think like I, it's all very fresh in my mind 'cause I like just learned how to do it, but I'm realizing like if I don't keep my skills current, I'm probably gonna be exactly

Ally Brettnacher: right. You're like, which way does the O-ring face? Like, yes, that's really important.

Quincy Sauer: My instructor here in Indianapolis was kind of like.

Military style, the way he taught my class. And so we were like, I had to set that thing up so many times that like, I think I know it really well. Yeah. I took the class, I took the class on a total whim. [00:51:00] I, was supposed to do a four day arbitration in one of my cases and was supposed to start on a Monday.

And we got the case resolved like Thursday night, really late beforehand. And all of a sudden I had like time on my calendar available. I'm like, oh my gosh, this is amazing.

Ally Brettnacher: And what do I do?

Quincy Sauer: And so, you know, what I did is I, I went to divers supply Indie, which is like a very weird thing to me that exists here since we don't

Ally Brettnacher: Agreed.

And there's multiple locations.

Quincy Sauer: Yes. We don't have an ocean or really,

Ally Brettnacher: yeah.

Quincy Sauer: Any desirable diving.

Ally Brettnacher: No. Nobody wants to dive in the rock quarries.

Quincy Sauer: No, I know. so I went there and kind of asked like, is there any way I could sneak in at the last minute? They claimed they had had like a cancellation or something.

I'm not even sure if that's true, but No, it was myself and three gentlemen who were probably in high school, like very young. So it was, uh, it was interesting. I, but I did feel okay, the first most places that you do this now, I think [00:52:00] they can knock out the whole confined water place in like one day. Right.

But mine was three days and the first night we had like the swimming test and there was one guy in my class that could barely swim and that made, that gave me confidence. I was like, he can barely swim and he wants to scoot up. You, I

Ally Brettnacher: can do this. Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: Where did you, um, where did you get certified?

Ally Brettnacher: I, it was, I swear it was probably through Diver Supply Indie.

It's been. Almost 20 years since I've been certified, because I got certified to go with my dad and my sister on a trip to, Australia and, Thailand.

Quincy Sauer: Oh my

Ally Brettnacher: goodness. Crazy. Just crazy the places I've gotten to dive. That's awesome. Um, but nothing compared to John Stilley, who we'll talk about. But um, but yeah, so that's, it's been a long time.

And then I got re-certified when my husband and I got married. Oh, okay. Because I wanted to be able to scuba dive on our honeymoon.

Quincy Sauer: Oh.

Ally Brettnacher: But both times I did it, it was like weeks long. Like we went like once a week for like, I don't know how long. But

Quincy Sauer: Did you do it through Patty?

Ally Brettnacher: Yes.

Quincy Sauer: Where did you go on your honeymoon?

Ally Brettnacher: Uh, St. Lucia.

Quincy Sauer: Oh, how cool.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. So diving was like included. We did, [00:53:00] um, what was it called? Sandals. So they have like diving's secluded. You're like, okay, well we need to take advantage of that.

Quincy Sauer: Absolutely.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Yeah. So,

Quincy Sauer: well, once you start dabbling in the world, now I'm realizing Yes, there's like dive resorts or liverboards Right.

Or all this stuff. I found out my scuba diving training did not go that well. I almost didn't pass the pool part because I couldn't figure out how to get the weights. back into my BCD

Ally Brettnacher: Oh,

Quincy Sauer: the, the, let's just say though, the one, the BCDs that Divers Supply India uses, they don't have any female specific ones.

So didn't fit very well.

Ally Brettnacher: Right? Yeah. And this is for people who aren't divers, it's like, what is it called? Breathing control device? Is that what that stands for?

Quincy Sauer: Buoyancy.

Ally Brettnacher: Buoyancy.

Quincy Sauer: Buoyancy control. See,

Ally Brettnacher: I was, I was testing you bucy. See, I

Quincy Sauer: just, I just had to take all the tests, so it's like fresh in my mind.

Yeah. But then, so I made the executive decision that I didn't wanna dive in a rock Cory, in India.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. It was the worst.

Quincy Sauer: So I actually spoiled myself and I went and did my checkout dives. In Kona, like in the big island in Hawaii. Oh,

Oh,

Ally Brettnacher: I'm so [00:54:00] jealous of that. The rock qua, which I

Quincy Sauer: recommend,

Ally Brettnacher: the rock quarry dive I'd done to.

I did. I love my husband. I went, I did it with him, even though I didn't technically have to get re-certified. It was just, it's awful as I remembered.

Quincy Sauer: It's right. A passage, right?

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah, it

Quincy Sauer: is. But so you're better. The navigation component, you probably actually had to like think through my navigation component.

The visibility was like, you could see at least, you know, a hundred yards, so

Ally Brettnacher: Oh my gosh. It

Quincy Sauer: was like, pretend like you're lost.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah, right. Whereas it was like you could see like. Four or five feet.

Quincy Sauer: And that was about it. But I did my, so for me to get certified, I think they've changed and made it easier.

'cause they want more people to probably get into it. It's a lot.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: So I had to do four checkout dives and we did two checkout dives on the first day, and then two checkout dives on the second day. And the first day I was on a very small boat of just students. There were, it was two instructors and six students on this boat.

And we did our first checkout dive and we came up and had like a one hour surface interval and the boat's just like rocking and rocking and rocking. And I got super seasick, like [00:55:00] immediately before dive number two. Um, and that's the, that's the dive where you have to do like the buddy breathing and like give your regulator to somebody, a friend.

And like I had just gotten CS six, so it was pretty, it was pretty gross, pretty bad. and I was gonna stop there, but I, I somehow, I went to the day too and actually got certified.

Ally Brettnacher: That's, that's funny. Yeah. I

Quincy Sauer: now, it's fun.

Ally Brettnacher: I've seen, I've seen somebody. Throw up underwater. Yes. Which actually, I don't know how you then breathe again.

I don't know,

Quincy Sauer: but

Ally Brettnacher: they

Quincy Sauer: did. I'll, I'll let you know. You actually, you have to keep your regulator in your mouth. It's, it's pretty disgusting. However, the people that are diving with you actually. Appreciate on some level because the fish just formed. That's what,

Ally Brettnacher: yeah, I remember because all of a sudden we were like, where are these fish coming from?

And then you could see, and you were like, somebody was like, you know, miming, what had happened? And you're like, oh

Quincy Sauer: yeah,

Ally Brettnacher: yeah. It's crazy. Anyway, like tangent now I

Quincy Sauer: take the medicine, now there's the's

Ally Brettnacher: there. You go's

Quincy Sauer: like a seasick

Ally Brettnacher: pill. Yeah, I take, I take that too when I've gone. I mean, it's been a long time for me since I've dived now.

but yeah, John Stilley is, a former board [00:56:00] member, but he, you and I both served on the board with him at Monumental, and he is just, if anybody's interested in diving, just go find John. He,

Quincy Sauer: he's, he's the guy,

Ally Brettnacher: she, the, the trips he's taken. I haven't interviewed him for this podcast yet, but I will. Oh, you absolutely should.

And I really can't wait to hear about some of those adventures that he's been on. But a couple of themes for you, Quincy. It's like you've traveled a lot and then you also are a lifelong learner with all these like. I don't wanna say random hobbies, but kind of random hobbies, like scuba diving and now the classes you're taking, to learn standup comedy, which is so cool.

But I just, I wanna explore some of those more, even just alongside running. But yeah, you've been a lot of places too.

Quincy Sauer: Yes. I, I like to travel. I, you know, there was a period where when I was like a newer lawyer where. mean, I just had to work a lot.

Ally Brettnacher: I can only, I can only imagine like the hours.

Quincy Sauer: Yes. I, so for a really long time, like the, like only trips that I ever went on were just weekend trips [00:57:00] and it was still just like really hard to pull off.

'cause I had so many bosses and everything was, you know, a quote unquote emergency.

Um,

I just kind of didn't have any like, autonomy or control over my own schedule. So that was challenging. but thankfully I kind of, you know, you live and you learn. I, and now, now I am in a place where I have a lot of control over my own schedule.

and so I just, I, I've realized that I'm actually a lot more productive when I plan something that I'm really looking forward to. Yeah. And to make it happen, I have to like, kind of like do the work in advance essentially, or come back to it. So I prefer to do it in advance. So, I think it actually makes me more productive, but, so I have.

Yes, I have traveled a lot recently. Yeah, it's been awesome. And it's fun 'cause I try to incorporate, like a lot of times I try to find like a cool event that I wanna do somewhere else. They're not marathons. I like that.

Ally Brettnacher: Well, they, they, they, you know, I was gonna ask that too.

Quincy Sauer: Maybe it's a [00:58:00] bike ride. Yeah.

Or swim, sometimes a run. I did do the Boulder. Boulder at one point in time in Colorado, which was fun. but mostly, or a lot of times it's also just like a really awesome hike. Something like that.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Yeah. I love that. Yeah. When I think about doing international races, for me it's like I wanna pick a place that I want to go and then find out when they're races because, you know, the world majors are so hard to get into now.

I really just don't have that big of a desire to go after those because there's so many other places that I wanna go and where I could run. But either that or just vacation running is one of my favorite things. So do you usually run while you're on vacation?

Quincy Sauer: Yes. I absolutely like, love running in a new place.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. So

Quincy Sauer: fun. It's a great way to see a place. so yes, and I, I will say one of the greatest things about getting into cycling in 2024, was that I finally started, my tech improved. I started using Strava.

Ally Brettnacher: Ooh.

Quincy Sauer: Which, 'cause I think Strava started as like a cycling app. and if you [00:59:00] ride a bike, it's just, it's so fun.

You do these group rides and then you kind of hear people's names throughout the ride, but I'm not that great at remembering them. But afterwards it like shows you exactly who you rode with, assuming they're on Strava, which most of the cyclists are. and then it's just a way to kind of connect.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: And that made me realize like, oh, runners also use Strava. Like, wait a second. And so the reason Strava's features have dramatically improved in terms of like finding a route.

Ally Brettnacher: True. Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: So now I can go somewhere and like, it's, if it's like GPS base, like basically like figure out like where other people, whether runners, what they've done.

I mean, all trails is also good, but I use Strava a lot for finding places to run and then. Cycling has this ride with GPS that also has some runs that's also useful. But yeah, so I basically steal other people's ideas. Yeah, that's great. About where to run.

Ally Brettnacher: That's great. That's perfect. That's exactly, yes.

What it's made for. Is that available to people who don't pay for Strava?

Quincy Sauer: Yes. So I didn't pay for it until recently.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay. Because I still don't, and I'm like, [01:00:00] should I,

Quincy Sauer: I pay for it now. it's like the only social media that I'm act really active on

on

except for like posting fun, like vacation pictures.

Yeah. Um, or frankly running pictures. but if you, there's, you get different benefits if you pay for it, just like any app. And I think it's, it's actually evolved. I mean, I know AI can essentially do this, but I think some people almost use it as their coach now. Mm-hmm. I haven't really done it, but, my Strava like gives me all these like, recommended workouts.

I'm not that great at doing. Speed work, for example. Yeah, right. But it like gives me like a

Ally Brettnacher: interesting, I haven't, well I guess if I don't pay for it, I haven't noticed that. 'cause it's probably included in that. Yeah, that's interesting.

Quincy Sauer: So I, I just kind of, you know, like a fun runner.

Not like, I'm not, obviously not everyone. I'm the worst runner in my family by like a long shot. Oh my gosh. My, uh, my brother's about to run the Boston Marathon this year. My sister-in-law ran it last year. I, I just, I'm like the jolly jogger of the family, but it's fun and

Ally Brettnacher: the Jolly jogger.

Quincy Sauer: But in any event it's, it's nice because I like the, like [01:01:00] I did a silly three mile run earlier today.

and it's fun 'cause it shows you like, oh, like those were miles 98, 99 and 100. I hit 100 now. Oh yeah. So it's like,

Ally Brettnacher: they're like

Quincy Sauer: silly for this year.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: Um, so they're like silly little mini things, but it basically like, that's nice. Is constantly. Giving you like little mini milestones to be happy about.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Alright. So maybe I'll pay for Strava, but now I'll have to wait till the end of the year because I, I held out at the end of the year.

'cause you had to pay to get your year end summary. Ah, and I just, I don't know why. I was just like, no, I, I want, I, I just wanna be able to see that I don't have to pay for that. Yeah. So now I have to wait till next year if I'm gonna pay. Just out of principle. I don't know. Maybe not.

Quincy Sauer: They're smart. Yeah. I mean, once you pay, you get.

You don't wanna keep paying.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah, I bet. I know I have so, so many things. Okay, so the other topic I wanted to cover because you did do an Ironman.

Quincy Sauer: I, well wait, I did a half Ironman, very half. You do

Ally Brettnacher: different. Okay. You did a half Ironman. Still from somebody like from where [01:02:00] I'm sitting, I'm still like an Ironman.

'cause that's amazing. but I saw somewhere you said that you traded the awkward modern dating, which I can only imagine the stories that you have for training for a half Iron man.

Quincy Sauer: Yes.

Ally Brettnacher: So this is funny because, you know, you got, you got broken up with, and you did your first, first half and then, you know, you're like, screw this.

I'm not dating anymore. I'm gonna do my first half Ironman.

Quincy Sauer: Yeah. There we got a little theme going on here. Yeah. yeah, I think, I think exercise or fitness, running, swimming, biking, whatever it is. it's so nice because I feel like it's really easy to create a goal. Put a plan in place and achieve the goal.

And it's, so to me, I don't know, that's kind of how my mind works. It's like, okay, if you set a goal, you come up with a plan and you make it happen. and so it's really, it's, it's really been like rewarding and frankly like kind of confidence boosting to, do [01:03:00] different events and set the goal and, and make it happen.

dating doesn't really seem to work like that. I mean, you know, obviously like human relationships are complex, but I think when I was a lot younger, I was so focused on like work and career, I probably didn't make dating a priority. And then. Um, at some point I shifted and I feel like dating was like my main priority, you know, like, kind of like I have to like find a husband immediately.

and was kind of like dating from a place of panic. Yeah. Maybe.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: Um, which is not really where you wanna be.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: and so, I think I just started realizing, so I think there's a general kind of like, frustration about technology is fantastic. I mean, I was just telling you how much I love Strava.

but dating has also like, kind of become really entrenched in technology. Yeah. which has its perks. I mean, I certainly have like friends that have really like, healthy, happy [01:04:00] relationships from, and technology was kind of the, the boost to have that relationship. Yeah. So like there's a lot of happy stories.

but it's also made it so like. It's outrageously easy to meet people, right? I mean, it's so easy to meet people. and it kind of makes you realize like, I mean, there's also just like an outrageous amount of options. You know? You could, you could go, if I wanted to like go on a date every day next week, I could probably make that happen.

Yeah. You know, it's wild. so the capacity kind of gets like overwhelming. And then I think the other thing is just that dating inherently, it's like entirely rejection until it's not, you know?

Ally Brettnacher: Right.

Quincy Sauer: And it's fine when I think when like both parties aren't interested in each other, that's easy.

That's fine. Yeah. Ideally it would always be like that. Yeah. When both parties are interested in each other, like that's where the magic happens. but the challenging situation I think that occurs a lot more often is when, when one party's interested and the other one's not. cause then you have to deal with, it's like if I'm into a guy and he's not [01:05:00] into me.

You know, well, that's frustrating. But then the reverse, if I'm not into the guy, but he like is into me, then you, it's still kind of painful. It's like Yeah. You have to be the one like doing the reject. Yeah. Whether you are receiving the rejection or like handing out the rejection, it gets kind of exhausting.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. And awkward is a great word for that too. 'cause it's just like awkward to have to be like, I don't, yeah. Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: And so naturally, I am, I'm a lawyer and so I'm, I'm kind of, my brain's almost like trained to like track my time or like how long it takes me to do things. And so I feel like at some point I was like not, I wasn't like writing it down, but I was kind of like paying attention to like how much time dating was sucking outta my life.

Right.

Right. It's just between, like, let's say that you connect with a, potential partner on Hinge or Bumble or whatever dating app. There's all this back and forth that happens before the date's even set up. Yeah. Going on the date was actually usually like. The fun, enjoyable part, but then frankly, the aftermath [01:06:00] of the date is a lot.

You know, like what communication happens after the date, is there another date? and the way that modern dating is kind of set up, it's like there's this assumption that like everybody is dating lots of people until you like, define that you're exclusive. Yeah. In any event. So I was, I was kind of in a confusing situation 'cause I was trying to make it my top priority.

I was like, I wanna find a life partner. but I was like, do I, skip my tennis that I play every week for it or do I skip my run? Do I like, how, where do I put it really in terms of how I'm spending my time? So I, and it was, it wasn't going well, so I was getting frustrated. so I just mentally, I just decided to make a shift and I was like, okay, I am, I'm gonna try to do something that.

I can actually like set the goal and hopefully like achieve the goal.

Ally Brettnacher: Yes.

Quincy Sauer: A little easier and just put dating where it's, it's not like, not a priority, but it's just like, let it occur like a little bit more naturally. Like, [01:07:00] if I meet somebody, awesome. If I don't, awesome. You know, it's fine. so, and it's been, it's honestly like ever since I shifted my mindset on that.

So that was back frankly in 2024. now it's February of 2026 and my mindset is the same.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: So it's been, it's been wonderful. and I, so it also led me to, I met so many awesome people. I mean, not maybe like my life partner, but man did I meet just so many new, I met a lot of people through tennis and cycling and running.

Those are probably the three main things. Not as many swimming. I kind of just do by myself.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: I'm not a social swimmer because the swimming, the social swimming occurs at like 5:00 AM and that's too early for me,

Ally Brettnacher: God, to be social at 5:00 AM I used to be social at 5:00 AM when I would run that early, but now I don't have to.

So I don't,

Quincy Sauer: no, anything, anybody who would meet me at 5:00 AM would probably not want to be friends with me.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Probably not. Yeah, me either.

Quincy Sauer: so no. So it's [01:08:00] been, but, but I just, I don't know. I, I, I've watched my, you know, other friends kind of go through like struggles where I think sometimes the struggle, it's really frustrating if you're dealing with something that.

It feels like you, like, have no control over or, you know. Yeah. and that's where I think just like, I just have always loved. I feel like at every point in time, since I signed up for, my mother signed me up for the mini in 2006, I have actually signed myself up for the other races and she, she doesn't sign me up anymore.

Um, but I'd be

Ally Brettnacher: nice, you know,

Quincy Sauer: I always signed expensive

Ally Brettnacher: now.

Quincy Sauer: Yes, I know, right. It really is. but it's just nice just to have like a race lingering so that I have something to train for. Yeah. It just puts me in a good mindset. so yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. And where did you do your half iron? Man?

Quincy Sauer: So, I, I didn't make the best decision on this.

Um, I did the one in Louisville, Kentucky, because I was thinking, oh, it's not, you know, it's not that far from here. They had, they used to have a full Ironman Okay. There at one point in time, and they stopped that event. I've heard [01:09:00] like conflicting stories as to why they stopped the event, but they stopped it and then they brought it back for the first time in 2024.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay.

Quincy Sauer: As a half Ironman. And so I, I had always wanted to do a half Ironman, but I just, I don't know, like, I didn't know the cycling piece. I was like intimidated by it. The divas frankly, like, allowed me to like actually pull off this half Ironman. so I picked that race and I signed up for it. I think you signed up for it really far in advance.

And so you sign up for it, thinking like, oh, I'll figure it out later. And I just remember like, it came around and I was like, okay, like I need, I need a plan. I need, I gotta figure this out. The really cool part. So my older brother actually did it with me.

Ally Brettnacher: Oh, that's awesome.

Quincy Sauer: And he, he's a really good runner.

He's like a okay swimmer. He's, I think I beat him in the swim. and he, he could be a good cyclist if he put some effort into it. If

Ally Brettnacher: he wanted to. I mean, I feel like

Quincy Sauer: [01:10:00] runners, he did not.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. If you don't wanna, then you're not gonna spend the time doing

Quincy Sauer: it. Yeah. so it was really fun. In retrospect, it, I think they actually are not doing the race.

They did it last year, the year I did it, the race sold out like very quickly. They did not sell out last year, and I don't think they're even doing it this year. because there's a couple problems with that race. It is hot. It is extremely hot. It's a summer race.

Ally Brettnacher: Oh no,

Quincy Sauer: it's in August or was in August.

Okay.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: and so a half iron man, like, I don't say you're going at it all day, but like, you're not done early in the morning. Like it's, it gets hot and you're running last. Yeah. So, and then the other thing is that the bike course is really like rolling Hills, which. I actually appreciated, like I had fun on the bike course as I, you know, like the bike, you swim, you swim in the river.

Okay. And then you bike on these rolling hills. But here's the kicker, the run not flat at all. Oh. Like no piece of the run was flat. Oh no. You were just running hills the whole time. Oh. And I did not prepare for that. I didn't even look at the elevation of the course. Like I [01:11:00] just assumed,

Ally Brettnacher: oh no.

Quincy Sauer: You know, it's like not in Colorado, it's not gonna be that.

Ally Brettnacher: Right. Oh

Quincy Sauer: no. Um, so the run was absolutely brutal.

Ally Brettnacher: Ooh. Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: I still haven't decided. I was, I was thinking the other night I was like, this is a weird, would you rather question? But the question's basically, would you rather run 13.1 miles and then run another 13.1 miles, which is basically a marathon or do 70 miles, which basically swimming 1.2 and biking 56 miles before running a half marathon.

Right. Because it's kind of the difference between a marathon and a half Ironman.

I

don't know. I don't know what the answer to that one is. Yeah. There, there's more logistics involved in a, in a triathlon than, than running. And what I did not get right at all, was the nutrition component. Mm-hmm. I, I was proud of myself for figuring out the bike, but I'll say the thing I didn't figure out is how to eat while riding a bike.

Ally Brettnacher: That sounds hard,

Quincy Sauer: which you kind of have to do. So I, I, I figured out how to [01:12:00] drink, so I got fluids in my body during the bike, but I just didn't. get any calories in my body really, which was a problem on the then trying to run afterwards.

Ally Brettnacher: Oh no. Yeah, that sounds, that sounds really

Quincy Sauer: brutal.

Yeah. All around there. There's definitely like a learning curve to it. Yeah. but I don't know, I crossed that finish line and I was super happy and I, I ate the most food I've ever eaten my entire life that night. I mean, I put down, I went to this Cuban restaurant and just like, ate everything they had available.

I ate so much food.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Oh, that's one of the best parts, at least for me. Like, I love the post-race meal is always, always good.

Quincy Sauer: And I remember I, so that race was on a Sunday, I am pretty sure. 'cause I drove, I stayed that night 'cause I was like, I'm don't even know. Oh, I've, I've been gonna have enough energy.

It's not that far of a drive. But I was like, I don't think that's safe.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: So I stayed that night. And then I drove home and that Monday was the first day of my class at the law school that I teach. And I remember like walking into class and I was like, how do you know if I'm walking right? Like,

Ally Brettnacher: yeah, are [01:13:00] they, they're gonna think like, what is wrong with her?

Quincy Sauer: I was pretty tired.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: But, um, no, it was, it's cool. It's just cool to set like a, I don't know, just to do something kind of different. and I, I think that's, if, you know, for people who have run a marathon, you'll get addicted to like having a new goal or a new event to train for.

I do think it's a nice pivot to switch and try out the, the half Ironman distance is significantly more attainable in terms of like actually having a job and, and pulling this off.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: Right. Than I think, an Ironman, oh my gosh, training for an Ironman is, I think that's almost a full-time job.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

I, I, I always say this now. I mean, I just have no desire to do that. But you know, I guess you never know. 'cause I also, when I started this podcast, said I would never do an ultra marathon. And now I'm like thinking now there

Quincy Sauer: we go.

Ally Brettnacher: Now I'm thinking, well it seems like I could do that.

Quincy Sauer: Yep.

Ally Brettnacher: But

Quincy Sauer: you just keep getting crazier and crazier.

Ally Brettnacher: Right.

Quincy Sauer: But the problem is, is like the people who are like on the outside, like these are usually my [01:14:00] tennis friends that are like, not runners. you know, they always invite me to play tennis on Saturday morning and it's usually no, I'm doing some race. Right?

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Or

Quincy Sauer: I'm doing some long run. And they know by now that it's very rare that I will play tennis on a Saturday morning.

That's kind of my sacred running time. Mm-hmm. but I'll like tell 'em what they, what I'm doing and they like, think I'm like completely insane.

Ally Brettnacher: Right.

Quincy Sauer: It's like you have no clue. Like there are people that are like way crazier than I am. Right.

Ally Brettnacher: Well I feel like, you know, one of the downsides of social media is that it seems like running a marathon is not that big of a deal in my running algorithm.

Right. And you think, wow, what that's to a normal person does not compute like half marathons even, you know, 5K, 10 k or like.

you know,

A big deal, and I think I've kind of lost sight of that. When you're just in the world of it, you realize how big of a deal it really is.

Quincy Sauer: Oh, yes.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah,

Quincy Sauer: yeah. Especially if your normal world is, uh, social media on Strava, you'll feel very, it's easy to feel very inadequate.

Ally Brettnacher: Right? You're like, what? Or Yeah. Or you're talking to [01:15:00] people who've done like crazy things and you're like, okay. Um, yes,

Quincy Sauer: absolutely.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. I, yeah. Okay.

you did a really cool swim though. We didn't talk about why Kiki, that's Hawaii, right?

Quincy Sauer: Oh, yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: That, that's the coolest experience ever.

If, you do swim, you absolutely should do this, do this event. I, it was something, I was kind of on my bucket list for a while. but it's the Y Kiki rough water swim. It is held every labor day. Weekend on Oahu, which is where Honolulu is in Hawaii and it is a 2.4 mile ocean swim. It is the swim that inspired, 'cause everybody's like, well, an Iron Man.

The swim is 2.4 miles. Why is it 2.4 miles? It's kinda like a weird distance, right? That is the distance of basically swimming. So w if you haven't been to Hawaii, Waikiki is like the beach in Hawaii that's got all the high rise hotels and it has diamond head. it's kind of the most like [01:16:00] iconic thing I think that they show from like Hawaii.

It's gorgeous. It's like really, really pretty. so I had this is, I had never been to Oahu before, which is, which is the island that the swim is on. So, I basically was like, you know what I'm, oh, I did it the year that I did the Half Ironman because I was

Ally Brettnacher: like,

Quincy Sauer: okay, okay, I've trained for the swim,

Ally Brettnacher: right?

I

Quincy Sauer: normally don't like, I Yeah,

Ally Brettnacher: because you

Quincy Sauer: do this, if I can swim 1.2 miles, I can swim 2.4 miles.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: What is that?

Ally Brettnacher: Oh my gosh. Crazy to me.

Quincy Sauer: Um, but the hilarious thing is, I think I told like my family and friends I was doing this, you know it again, it's called the Waikiki Rough Water Swim. And they're thinking like, oh, she's swimming in some big waves, right?

That's not true,

Ally Brettnacher: right? Yeah. It sounds to me, I'm like picturing you like, just like, I don't know. We like,

Quincy Sauer: yeah,

Ally Brettnacher: I

Quincy Sauer: can't, yeah. But it's not maybe named accurately because, so surfing is like really popular at, at this area and there's like good reason for that because the waves are generally like really organized.

So there's certain breaks where like the [01:17:00] waves are consistent and like they're, they can be big, but they just kind of like roll in gently. So you are really, if you swim through any waves, it's like waves like that. It's not like choppy, like chaos waves. and the water is like crystal clear. So you swim, it's like a point A to point B swim.

You start like on one side of the beach and you swim to the other side of the beach. And the coolest little, first of all, I saw a spot at Eagle Ray, which, oh, I, this is before I learned how to scuba dive. So like my mind was blown. Yeah. I was like, this is like majestic and really cool. and you're kind of swimming along a reef the entire time.

That's kind. Cool. So you see. Tons of fish. Yeah. And the fish in Hawaii are like different than, like, some of them like are only found in Hawaii. you can see sea turtles, all kinds of stuff. But the coolest part was you, there's different waves. You, you, they ask you how fast you swim and I had no idea I had, I was just in the natatorium.

Yeah. And I had to swim in, like tie myself 'cause I had no idea. but in any event, so you do this swim and it's the first time in my life I ever did open [01:18:00] water swimming with like other good swimmers. Because in triathlon oftentimes you're swimming with people that are really good cyclists, but they're lousy swimmers.

Yeah. Right. So like you kind of have to like swim over them or under them or whatever. But this was just so fun 'cause you're just actually swimming with like other swimmers. Yeah. So it, it was awesome. And I, that same day I went and like did the diamond head hike where you like,

Ally Brettnacher: oh fun

Quincy Sauer: hike up and you can like look over the hole.

Honolulu area and it's, you have like this bird's eye perspective. It's, it's cool. So here's a, if you do wanna do the swim though, so it's every Labor Day weekend. Okay. Except for, I thought this was kind of interesting. This year is like the only year, they're actually holding it the weekend before Labor Day.

Okay. Because they always plan the event around the jellyfish bloom and the jellyfish bloom is related to when the full moon is. And so they so wild already. Like know that Labor Day weekend is like, not the weekend [01:19:00] that you wanna be doing swimming the swim because of the jellyfish. So it's actually the weekend before.

Ally Brettnacher: Wow.

Quincy Sauer: just this year. And then it will go back to being every labor day. But

Ally Brettnacher: I mean, it's awesome. Nature never ceases to amaze. It's just, it's like what?

Quincy Sauer: Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: Thinking about that is mind blowing. That's so cool. Do you get a medal at the end of a swim like that?

Quincy Sauer: That's a really good question. So I remember, so the way it works is, so you swim back to shore and it ends at this like hotel on the beach.

And you actually, they have, I don't know if it was inflatable, but they have like an arch, like you, right?

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Okay.

Quincy Sauer: Like you run under for running races, so you have to actually get out of the water and you, and then jog up the, it is kind of funny. You sprint and cross. There is a finish line, like that's on land.

Yeah. and you finish. I'm trying to remember. And you know, you get swag. Like I will say they, they need to up their game. It was like a cotton T-shirt.

Ally Brettnacher: You're

You're like, come on guys.

Quincy Sauer: Yeah. I'm like, come on, I'm not gonna run a race in this cotton. But

Ally Brettnacher: yeah.

Quincy Sauer: but you definitely, I definitely got a lot of things that are branded with the swim.

I'm trying to think if there was metal. I honestly don't remember. Yeah,

Ally Brettnacher: [01:20:00] that's fine. That's a good question. That's fine. Yeah. I, it's interesting to picture like running out, it's like Baywatch style, like running out of the

Quincy Sauer: water.

Ally Brettnacher: Like, except you're probably like. A little drained at that point.

Quincy Sauer: Yeah. Well, and you don't have, like, you have like your goggles, they, they, they have strict rules, like you're not allowed to wear a wetsuit.

'cause I think they'll, they say the wetsuit makes you, you have like more buoyancy? Yeah. Okay. You can, so there's no wetsuits, there are like strict about like what you have to basically wear like normal swimsuits. you can't wear like a triathlon suit. You gotta wear like a weird, a regular one, a regular swimsuit.

but then when you finish, they have like all this gear check. So they, they've taken your shoes from point A to point B. That's really what I, what I checked. so you get your stuff back.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah. I to think about those logistics.

Quincy Sauer: Yeah, because it's, it's 2.4 miles, right? So you swim like out a tiny bit, but most of the 2.4 miles is like across the beach.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay. So you could like stand up.

Quincy Sauer: no, the water, because

Ally Brettnacher: that would be weird.

Quincy Sauer: Yeah. The water is, well, you wouldn't really want to, 'cause it's reefs, mostly reef, also into protecting the reef. but it's, it is a [01:21:00] little bit deeper like Okay. Where you're,

Ally Brettnacher: where

Quincy Sauer: you're swimming.

Ally Brettnacher: That makes sense. Alright. okay. One more thing before I ask you the end of the podcast questions, because I wanna hear about your comedy class.

Quincy Sauer: Oh,

Ally Brettnacher: because that's so cool. And actually, my husband and I are going to see Nate Zi tomorrow.

Quincy Sauer: Oh, amazing. Yeah. Yes. Oh, that will be so fun.

Ally Brettnacher: Bagi. I don't know how you, uh, whatever.

Quincy Sauer: I know there's a lot of comedians that I, or frankly a lot of people that I'm just on a first name basis with and I don't know how to say their last

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah, right.

Brett Knocker is me. Yeah. So just saying it's tough.

Quincy Sauer: Yeah. so I just, I, I feel like a long time ago I just decided, I was like, I always wanna be, I wanna teach and I wanna be a student like at every point in time in my life. So currently it's been pretty easy because I teach this like one class at the law school for fun.

So that's kind of my teaching element right now. The student element, I've switched up a lot. Like it's, I'm, I, like you said, I kind of random,

Ally Brettnacher: so cool. Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: So, and, and some of 'em are like more planned in advance than others. So last year I was basically learning how to scuba dive. So I was like, all right, I learned how to scuba dive.

I need a new [01:22:00] project for 2026. This one's a little out there. but I think I get a little hint of that like. Seasonal affective disorder. Like, I, I don't love winter.

Ally Brettnacher: I get, I for sure do.

Quincy Sauer: Yeah. Yeah. I feel like I'm always like, okay, like, what can I do to like, make winter not terrible? And so the, I'm on the email list for, I, I know they, I used to call it the Palladium, I think technically like now they call it the Allied center for the Oh, center

Ally Brettnacher: for the Performing Arts.

Quincy Sauer: Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The Palladia more or less. Yeah. Yeah. but so they send out an email that kind of like teases the events that they have there. you know, I usually just like skim it and go on my way, but I was skimming it and it said that they had a standup comedy class.

Ally Brettnacher: And you were like, yeah.

Quincy Sauer: And I actually, it's, it's something I've wanted to try for a while, but like, just kind of never done it. And I don't know what got into me, but like, and thank goodness I did. 'cause it always sells out. I was just like, bam, I'm doing it. So I signed up for this a while [01:23:00] ago. and it's, so what it is is it's, it's short.

it's four weeks.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay.

Quincy Sauer: And it is four Mondays from 6:00 PM to 9:00 PM and the classes are actually like at the center for the perform nerves At the,

Ally Brettnacher: in the, in the, uh,

Quincy Sauer: not in the gigantic theater. Okay. Thank goodness. But they're actually, they, they don't have like a dedicated classroom that we're in.

We're just like in. Random atrium.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay.

Quincy Sauer: but, so we've had three classes so far. Our fourth class is coming up this next Monday, and it's a dress rehearsal. So what, so we're, so the, our actual performance is gonna be in this, there's different theaters. It's called the Studio Theater. I

Ally Brettnacher: didn't even know there were different theaters in there.

Quincy Sauer: I didn't know this studio theater existed. Yeah. Um, I'm curious to see. It holds 200 people, so more than I was thinking. but, so there's 15 people in my class and each person gets five minutes. So we, the way that it works is, so for a class, class number one [01:24:00] was kind of like the history of comedy, which was in our country, which was actually pretty interesting.

Class number two, everybody had to perform one minute of standup and then you're given feedback.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay.

Quincy Sauer: Um, and it was.

they

Allegedly taught you how to like write jokes. Class number three, which I just had, everybody, I do three minutes of material and we talked about performance theory and then class four is the dress rev rehearsal.

So I just learned it's so much harder than it looks.

Ally Brettnacher: I mean, I can't even imagine.

Quincy Sauer: Well,

and the thing I, the thing I didn't realize is you see comedians up there and, they just kind of look like they're casually talking to you and they're just funny. Yeah. They're just, they have a funny personality.

Right. but we basically, I've learned there's so much more work that goes into it, like ahead of time. I mean, people are like really like writing jokes. and you workshop them so you see like. Kind of like some things like actually work with this crowd. Some things do not. Oh

Ally Brettnacher: my gosh. Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: Um, [01:25:00] so I've actually learned a lot more than I was anticipating.

I'm terrified. My, my show is a week from today. I've got a bunch of, it's, it's convenient because it's over. Zionsville has like this winter break, so like most of my family is gonna be out of town, which is great.

Ally Brettnacher: Oh man.

Quincy Sauer: I bet

Ally Brettnacher: they're bummed about that.

Quincy Sauer: Well, I know, they're like, is there gonna be like a live stream or is it gonna be recorded?

I don't know the answer to that. Maybe I'll ask on Monday.

Ally Brettnacher: Oh my gosh.

Quincy Sauer: But in, anyway, so I've got a bunch of my tennis friends are coming. so we'll see. I, but it's very satisfying when you can make a room full of people laugh.

Ally Brettnacher: It's, I I, that would be fun. Yeah. That you could, I could see where you get addicted to that.

Quincy Sauer: Yes.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: And it, the, the, I guess another full disclosure, I mean, the real reason why I signed up for it, I told you like, I just have a bad attitude about winter usually. but it forces you to go through your daily life and you're just spotting for funny stuff, you know? So like, it, even when like the crappiest stuff happens, I feel like now I'm just kind of looking to put a comedy spin on it.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: And so it just, I feel like when I was, painting my [01:26:00] place, I was like, so in tune with like, what color is, the walls are painted in different places, and like now I like barely notice. It's like the same thing right now. I'm just like, my entire daily life is like, okay. is there anything funny?

Ally Brettnacher: What's funny?

Quincy Sauer: Yeah.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Well, I mean, and that can tie back to running too. Just shifting your mindset Oh, to be. You know, more positive is huge. And I think sometimes things, so many things go wrong in a row and I just, then you just laugh because you're like, absolutely. Okay. This is just, now it's comedy at this point because it's so ridiculous.

Quincy Sauer: Most of my half marathon in the half Ironman was comedy because they, they have really strict rules at that race that you, you can't run with headphones, so no one has headphones on. and I find that most of the running races I do, there's at least some people that have headphones on. Yeah. So this is just a, it is a community experience because you can talk to all the other participants and no one has headphones in.

So I just remember running those hills and like just talking to other people and be like. This sucks, but like, we were [01:27:00] just like making each other laugh of like, there's no way, there's like another hill coming. And then like there was,

Ally Brettnacher: yeah, you get to, you're like, oh, there, it's okay. Yay.

Quincy Sauer: But it was kind of fun because it was like almost kind of chatty.

'cause you're not, you don't run that fast after like swimming and biking beforehand. Yeah. So it was, I just remember being like a, a funnier experience than I was anticipating. Yeah. So, yeah. So like I think, yeah, adding the comedy element to running definitely helps the cause.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Oh my gosh. I love that.

Well, good luck.

Quincy Sauer: I know. Well, well it, the nice thing is, is like everybody knows that we're new to this, so I think hopefully the expectations are low. and if you totally bomb. I mean,

Ally Brettnacher: I mean, your tennis friends are gonna laugh no matter what, so that's great.

Quincy Sauer: Well,

Ally Brettnacher: they better,

Quincy Sauer: we'll, we'll see.

Ally Brettnacher: I would be like, you better laugh when you're supposed to

Quincy Sauer: laugh.

It just makes me like, when, so when you go to your comedy show this weekend, it almost makes me like, when someone's like, just not making anybody laugh, it almost makes you wanna like, give them like a little bit of a sympathy laugh. Right. And there you're

Ally Brettnacher: like,

Quincy Sauer: okay,

Ally Brettnacher: please. This is horrible. I'm

Quincy Sauer: just gonna laugh

Ally Brettnacher: to make you feel good.

Quincy Sauer: Yeah. Yeah. So we'll see. [01:28:00] I'm, I am, I'm excited about it. I just, it's, it's good to have those, like, I used to have that nervous feeling before races that I was running, but I feel like after you've done enough races, that kind of wears off. I still

Ally Brettnacher: get 'em.

Quincy Sauer: Oh, you still? Well,

Ally Brettnacher: if I'm, if I'm running for time.

Quincy Sauer: Okay.

Ally Brettnacher: I get nervous. It's stupid. But

Quincy Sauer: see, I wish I did. 'cause I think there's like productive things about getting nervous, but I feel like now I'm like,

Ally Brettnacher: whatever. I

Quincy Sauer: don't know. This is like fun to run with other people, you know, like, but so it's, it's fun to find, like, I guess I'm always trying to look for things that kind of like actually give you that nervous feeling again.

And standup comedy a hundred percent does, so.

Ally Brettnacher: Yes. Oh my gosh. Okay. Well I can't wait to hear about it. You'll have to report back, please.

Quincy Sauer: Hopefully I'll still be alive.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Alright. end of the podcast questions.

Quincy Sauer: Okay.

Ally Brettnacher: So what is your favorite running mantra and or song?

Quincy Sauer: Ooh, good question. I think Running Mantra, I don't know if this is really running, but I'll steal it from one of my Pilates instructors.

So I have a Pilates instructor that always says, be the energy that you want to attract. [01:29:00] Might say more eloquently than that, but I think it's just the idea of, the energy that you put into the world is kind of contagious. And so I just know, like when I run down the Monon if I like give somebody like this huge ridiculous smile, I like usually get at least a smile back.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: Mostly, you know, and it's just, it's just kind of fun to like put a certain like energy out into

Ally Brettnacher: it. Yeah.

Quincy Sauer: And I know when I have a really bad attitude, which does happen, you know, like that can be kind of exhausting to like be around. Yes. So, not that you have to be like ruthlessly positive all the time, but it's just like a nice kind of Okay.

Like you realize what you're putting out there like does affect other people. Yeah. so song, I'm kind of embarrassed to admit this is like so old at this point in time, but when I do run. Like if I do run a race with headphones and it have to be like a really long race for that, but I actually always listen to the Hamilton soundtrack.

Ally Brettnacher: Oh, okay.

Quincy Sauer: I don't know if it's because I know, I don't think that's embarrassing. I know like every single song and it's kind of fun to like listen to again. I [01:30:00] think that for some reason, like it just gets me like really like amped up to like run. And a lot of the songs have like a nice kind of like rhythm to them.

Yeah. Where it like works with your steps.

Ally Brettnacher: Okay. Yeah. I don't think that's embarrassing. I bet there's other people that have said that or

Quincy Sauer: like, well, it's, it's just old at this point.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Yeah. Uh, okay. And then next finish line or milestone, obviously the mini,

Quincy Sauer: well, tomorrow I'm gonna go run the, the mini miler.

Ally Brettnacher: Oh, me too.

Quincy Sauer: Three mile. I don't know if that counts. This, it's obviously really short. Yeah. But I, the three mile one, it feels kind of silly. I, I live in Broder Bowl and like to like, drive downtown and run three miles, but I like supporting the cause. Yes. I, and it's a series, so they do a three miler, a six miler, and a 10 miler.

Ally Brettnacher: Yep.

Quincy Sauer: so the six miler and the 10 miler. I guess, or maybe a little more important sci or longer, but I just, the three miler kind of like gets me in the mood. Right? Yeah. It's, it's kind of the kickoff, I guess. So I'm gonna do that tomorrow morning.

Ally Brettnacher: I've never done it.

Quincy Sauer: Oh, they're great. Well, they moved it, I've, I've done 'em for a long [01:31:00] time.

they've like, I've mean they've moved 'em all over the place, but it's the same place it was last season. And so they're at the full, they started at the Foing warehouse. Mm-hmm. which that ne that new neighborhood was, I guess it's not new, but, there's a lot of new, there's a lot of new restaurants.

There's like, just a lot of new stuff happening there. and it's great. It's, yeah, I'm excited. But warning side door bagel is close to there and it is like outrageously popular. Oh. So if you wanna go there, you gotta like, have a strategy and like,

Ally Brettnacher: do you, can you order online?

Quincy Sauer: I think you can, that's a good idea.

Because

Ally Brettnacher: that could be,

Quincy Sauer: yeah, I've never done it before, but I think that they do have that available. but it's, it is worth the wait. It's like, I remember last race I did, granted it was a longer than three mile over there. I went to Side Door Bagel afterwards and I was like, oh gosh, this is really good.

but no, so, so tomorrow morning and then I, I'm gonna do the mini and at least the monumental half, but I think my, I think this year I'm gonna try to swim a 5K. Ooh. I haven't actually signed up. There's a couple I've been toying with. I just, it's really like the date I just have to nail down. [01:32:00] But, I think in, in some sort of like ocean, ideally, maybe a lake, but open water.

Ally Brettnacher: Wow.

Quincy Sauer: I kind of, I haven't done it. I've, I've, the furthest swim I've done is that 2.41 that I did 2.4 miles. So I kind of wanted, they have, they have a lot of 5K swims, so I think they, I might do that this year.

Ally Brettnacher: Amazing.

Well

Be cheering for you.

Quincy Sauer: Thank you.

Ally Brettnacher: Well, thank you so much for doing this.

Quincy Sauer: Thank you. It

Ally Brettnacher: was so much fun.

Quincy Sauer: My, my first time talking on a podcast.

Ally Brettnacher: Yeah. Our time. It flew by and hopefully it was fun. Yes,

Quincy Sauer: absolutely.

Ally Brettnacher: And thank you to everybody who has listened and happy running.

Quincy Sauer: Very much appreciated it. Hopefully I'll see everybody out there.

Ally Brettnacher: Yay.

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